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Post by conwy10 on May 13, 2018 20:02:14 GMT
Emotional scenes. I guess Fabianski is off. Good to see he cares. I had a look at the wage bill and length of contract of the players and bar a couple of high earners, the structure seems better than some seem to be saying. They are paying a lot of players 30k a week but those contracts don't run longer than two more years. I Think they should try and renew the contracts of Ki and McBurnie if possible. But I think they could make some money from player sales and sort that tired central midfield out and I can see them coming back up. They key is the manager. Do they go for the man motivator type in Coleman, to lift the spirits and attempt to unite the club? Or do they go for a tactical guru and try and revert back to being the intelligent footballing side they were some seasons ago? I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think they’ll come straight back up. I can see them in the Championship for a good 3/4 years. They were so well run anyone could be successful at Swansea but the last few years they’ve changed for the worse. It all started when Laudrup changed their style of play, then they bought in the Americans. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 20:26:39 GMT
Emotional scenes. I guess Fabianski is off. Good to see he cares. I had a look at the wage bill and length of contract of the players and bar a couple of high earners, the structure seems better than some seem to be saying. They are paying a lot of players 30k a week but those contracts don't run longer than two more years. I Think they should try and renew the contracts of Ki and McBurnie if possible. But I think they could make some money from player sales and sort that tired central midfield out and I can see them coming back up. They key is the manager. Do they go for the man motivator type in Coleman, to lift the spirits and attempt to unite the club? Or do they go for a tactical guru and try and revert back to being the intelligent footballing side they were some seasons ago? I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think they’ll come straight back up. I can see them in the Championship for a good 3/4 years. They were so well run anyone could be successful at Swansea but the last few years they’ve changed for the worse. It all started when Laudrup changed their style of play, then they bought in the Americans. I guess part of what I meant to say is the long term stability isn't dependant on them going straight back up. With parachute payments they could have a stab at it two or maybe three times without haemorrhaging financially. Personally, I don't think they need as many player changes as some seem to make out. The they also have a few u21s who have the potential to make it. From a Welsh perspective it's vital that Swansea don't degrade their academy. Lose that and all this success won't leave the legacy that it should have. If one or two success stories can come from the academy, it will justify continual investment. |
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Post by jbt95 on May 13, 2018 20:36:59 GMT
I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think they’ll come straight back up. I can see them in the Championship for a good 3/4 years. They were so well run anyone could be successful at Swansea but the last few years they’ve changed for the worse. It all started when Laudrup changed their style of play, then they bought in the Americans. I guess part of what I meant to say is the long term stability isn't dependant on them going straight back up. With parachute payments they could have a stab at it two or maybe three times without haemorrhaging financially. Personally, I don't think they need as many player changes as some seem to make out. The they also have a few u21s who have the potential to make it. From a Welsh perspective it's vital that Swansea don't degrade their academy. Lose that and all this success won't leave the legacy that it should have. If one or two success stories can come from the academy, it will justify continual investment. I don't agree with you saying we don't need many player changes. This team has lost 21 league games this season. Ki is out of contract, Fabianski deserves more than Championship football, the Ayew brothers (especially Andre) won't want to be in the Championship. Mawson probably going to be snapped up elsewhere. Dyer and Routledge are past it. Leon and Rangel leaving. King, Abraham and Sanchez (ha) going back to their parent clubs. Nah - this team needs a total overhaul, which isn't a bad thing. |
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Post by alarch on May 13, 2018 20:39:21 GMT
Risky times for Swansea for sure. With an astronomical wage bill last season of £99 million they could end up making some serious losses in the Championship. Mawson and Fabianski will certainly go for decent fees. Fernandez, both Ayew's and Bony are also likely to go, if only on loan. So, the squad may well be decimated. Only if they make an inspired managerial appointment can I see Swansea bounce back up. Potter is the outstanding candidate - risky for sure, but the right sort of risk. If they make a bog standard been-there-done-it Championship-experienced appointment, then my expectations will be low.
I'm not too glum at relegation, at least now there's the possibility of a reset and some sort of possibility of Swansea getting back to playing attractive football. The likes of James and Roberts have a far better chance of getting game time in the Championship, so it should be good for Wales in the short to medium term as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 20:54:17 GMT
Player changes will be inevitable. They are for any team. I think the talent that will leave will command good fees and they will be able to re-invest. They do need to be more dynamic in the middle of the pitch, which used to be their calling card. They are too flat and predictable at present. That obviously needs sorting.
On the wage bill, isn't that hike dependant on Bony and the Ayew brothers? I just can't believe Swans are paying Bony's reported wages. It just doesn't fall in line with the pay structure of the rest of the squad. If the sky high figure is true then that's a mess. There's a lot of players on around 30k, but the big earners contracts don't run longer than two years so the parachute payments should have it all covered.
I just don't think the relegated teams in the prem this year are that bad compared to other seasons. This season was remarkably difficult.
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Post by conwy10 on May 14, 2018 6:32:46 GMT
I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think they’ll come straight back up. I can see them in the Championship for a good 3/4 years. They were so well run anyone could be successful at Swansea but the last few years they’ve changed for the worse. It all started when Laudrup changed their style of play, then they bought in the Americans. I guess part of what I meant to say is the long term stability isn't dependant on them going straight back up. With parachute payments they could have a stab at it two or maybe three times without haemorrhaging financially. Personally, I don't think they need as many player changes as some seem to make out. The they also have a few u21s who have the potential to make it. From a Welsh perspective it's vital that Swansea don't degrade their academy. Lose that and all this success won't leave the legacy that it should have. If one or two success stories can come from the academy, it will justify continual investment. It’s good that they are stable financially, the Championship is very competitive though. They need to get their identity back even if it’s a few years of mid to lower table. They’ll be just another former Premier League club down there and next year there’ll probably be around 18 of them, they need an edge, just something that sets them apart. |
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Post by cymroircarn on May 14, 2018 10:37:13 GMT
Ki is leaving then. Looks like Swansea will need another dog in midfield.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 12:32:40 GMT
BRANDON COOPER HAS BEEN NAMED SWANSEA CITY’S SCHOLAR OF THE YEAR AT A PREMIER LEAGUE AWARDS CEREMONY www.swanseacity.com/news/swans-youngster-scoops-awardThe 18-year-old defender, who captained Swansea’s under-18s before stepping up to make 13 appearances for the under-23s, picked up the gong at Molineux on Thursday. One scholar from every club in the Premier League academy programme is recognised in the end-of-season awards bash. The promising youngster from Porthcawl, who signed a new contract with the Swans in March, was thrilled to land the prize. “It is an honour to pick up this season’s award,” Cooper said. “It had been a long, tough campaign that has seen good progress on and off the pitch. Stepping up to play for the under-23s and playing at a higher level has been great. “The award is a good way to end the season and I am looking forward to achieving more and improving further for next season.” Swans legend Leon Britton was one of the first to congratulate Cooper, hailing the centre-back as “an example of a great young pro”. The award recognises the achievements of the player on the pitch as well their progress in education away from football. The academy’s head of education and welfare, Tony Thomas, believes Cooper is a fine role model for young players. “We nominated Brandon Cooper this year because he has made great progress as a player by captaining the under-18s, playing for the under-23s and his work in college,” he said. “He has worked extremely hard to keep abreast of his work and has always adopted a positive attitude and displayed commitment and dedication.” |
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Post by alternativewales on May 19, 2018 12:50:05 GMT
Ki is leaving then. Looks like Swansea will need another dog in midfield. Ki? Dog in midfield? Not even close..... |
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Post by cymroircarn on May 19, 2018 18:48:22 GMT
Ki is leaving then. Looks like Swansea will need another dog in midfield. Ki? Dog in midfield? Not even close..... It was a play on words/joke from my part as “ci” means dog in Welsh.... |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 18:55:15 GMT
Coleman hotly tipped to take over for next season. Can’t see it.
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Post by richierich333 on May 20, 2018 6:46:26 GMT
Anyone got intel on who's definitely going and who's staying? Several departures could open the door for some of the young Welsh kids
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Post by cymru98 on May 20, 2018 9:54:52 GMT
Not a jacks fan, but couldn't see Coleman doing much there. Don't rate him as a club manager.
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Post by 1gwaunview on May 20, 2018 10:02:44 GMT
Anyone got intel on who's definitely going and who's staying? Several departures could open the door for some of the young Welsh kids Part of the reason they lost their way over the past 2-3 years, conveyor belt of local talent mainly ignored, best players sold and inferior journeymen replacements. |
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Post by CrackityJones on May 21, 2018 12:07:21 GMT
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Post by phillywelsh83 on May 21, 2018 12:10:57 GMT
Would actually be a good appointment in terms of returning Swansea to their good footballing ways - he also has a chip on his shoulder after being ousted out of Palace without an opportunity to really show what he could do. I still think it will be Coleman, but would say this would be a good appointment for both parties. |
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Post by cymroircarn on May 21, 2018 14:55:01 GMT
Jaap Stam now linked with the job
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Post by holmesdaleultra on May 21, 2018 17:36:51 GMT
Beware Swansea this guy is a fake and clueless manager and so bloody vain and arrogant. He may have been successful at Ajax but he is outta his depth in english football. He is gonna be another flop like that american manager they had. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 21:50:14 GMT
Bob Bradley with his penalty kicks and road trips.
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Post by fiveattheback on May 21, 2018 22:47:39 GMT
Lee Johnson has also been linked, for Swansea's sake I hope you don't get him, all talk and no action, for all the bollocks about playing football the "right way" Bristol City have been just as long ball as Cardiff in the league this season
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 10:44:03 GMT
SIX YOUNG SWANSEA CITY PLAYERS HAVE BEEN OFFERED NEW DEALS TO PLAY FOR THE CLUB’S UNDER-23 SIDE NEXT SEASON www.swanseacity.com/news/under-18-starlets-offered-new-dealsUnder-18 captain Ben Cabango and left-back Matthew Blake, who each featured a number of times for the development side in 2017-18, have been handed contract offers. The Swans have also offered fresh terms to defender Joe Lewis and midfielders Cameron Berry, Oliver Cooper and Tom Price following the under-18s’ sixth-place finish in Premier League South – their most successful since joining category one football in 2015. Meanwhile, six academy scholars will leave the Liberty Stadium this summer. Goalkeeper Alex Lang, defender Rhydian Williams, midfielders Jack Fox, Finley Hazell and Jordan Jones and forward Matthew Roberts have all been released. The Swans would like to thank every one of the players for their service and wish them all the best in their future careers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 11:41:33 GMT
Who by? They’re managerless!
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Post by CrackityJones on May 23, 2018 10:37:43 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on May 23, 2018 16:56:03 GMT
Who by? They’re managerless! Probably by either their team managers or the Head of Development. Football is a complex game these days, usually the manager doesn’t have the power you’d expect, especially if they’re labelled as a Head Coach they aren’t responsible for recruitment. |
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Post by alternativewales on May 24, 2018 13:16:18 GMT
Ki? Dog in midfield? Not even close..... It was a play on words/joke from my part as “ci” means dog in Welsh.... Whoops! I like it. 🙂 |
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Post by alternativewales on May 24, 2018 13:19:41 GMT
Beware Swansea this guy is a fake and clueless manager and so bloody vain and arrogant. He may have been successful at Ajax but he is outta his depth in english football. He is gonna be another flop like that american manager they had. Tried to turn Palace in to a free flowing side, bearing in mind, just months earlier, Big Sam had kept you up playing a direct style of play? Would that be right? Thoughts? |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on May 24, 2018 20:03:59 GMT
Beware Swansea this guy is a fake and clueless manager and so bloody vain and arrogant. He may have been successful at Ajax but he is outta his depth in english football. He is gonna be another flop like that american manager they had. Tried to turn Palace in to a free flowing side, bearing in mind, just months earlier, Big Sam had kept you up playing a direct style of play? Would that be right? Thoughts? Yes bro , big Sam,s football was effective and it got results. He was only given a few games to be fair but the football under de boer was just awful,he tried to bring in a system but without the players avaliable at Palace , instead of doing it gradually, he actually only signed 1 player and that was Riedwald and he was awful on his debut, he looked like a parks player but he has got better. He apparently lost the dressing room in pre season with his arrogance/ ignorance /self importance. If he would have stayed at Palace we would have been relegated well before christmas. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 4, 2018 18:54:35 GMT
Potter had agreed terms and is set to be named manager soon.
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