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Post by zenith on Aug 11, 2018 14:57:06 GMT
Quiet first half, playing mostly as a right sided no.10
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Post by Gary Williams on Aug 11, 2018 21:58:58 GMT
Having little chuckle watching brooks go down for penalty after fouling bennet and cardiff fans singing same old english
hes a Welsh international lol
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 12, 2018 11:53:02 GMT
Having little chuckle watching brooks go down for penalty after fouling bennet and cardiff fans singing same old english hes a Welsh international lol That was more in reference to Bournemouth as a whole, we couldn't really make out specific players in the rain either Brooks needs to cut the diving out of his game, he was diving all over the place yesterday, he could do with bulking up a bit too
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Post by welshiron on Aug 12, 2018 13:28:57 GMT
Sounds like you Think Cardiff were robbed by a team better at the dark arts than a Warnock team.
That would be a worry.
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Post by welshiron on Aug 12, 2018 13:34:40 GMT
Great that Brooks is starting thought he would start season on bench
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 12, 2018 13:51:48 GMT
Sounds like you Think Cardiff were robbed by a team better at the dark arts than a Warnock team. That would be a worry. Does it really? I referenced Brooks' diving and a generic chant sung by opposition fans, I know you have a problem with Cardiff and we don't agree on many things, but you're just seeing what you want to see at this point On Brooks, he looked ok, a few things he tried didn't really come off but it was a decent debut in not ideal conditions, I stand by him needing to bulk up a fair bit, physically he couldn't match Bennett who's hardly a giant
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 13, 2018 9:30:00 GMT
Fair play to Eddie Howe giving Brooks his full debut straight off the bat. Sounds like young Dai took to it well and wasn't out of his depth. Could be a big season for him.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 13, 2018 10:29:19 GMT
From what i saw of the game, Brooks looked very good, great to see him starting, like others mentioned, i though he would start off the bench. So very positive start for him.
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Post by manulike on Aug 18, 2018 14:31:27 GMT
Dai had a fantastic match. Should have scored one and could have actually scored another two himself ... had a superb pass to Wilson who should had scored another ...
In comparison to last week, where he had very little of the ball, this match he has been at the centre of most of what they are trying to do. Won the free kick outside the box that gave them the 2-1 lead. Subbed after 77 minutes - purely tactical, as he was really a class player all match.
Took me a long time to be won over by our kid Dai, but if he carries on like this, I can honestly not see how it is possible to not play a 4-3-3 with him and Lawrence being on fire this summer ;-)
Very promising ;-)
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Post by iot on Aug 18, 2018 18:45:33 GMT
Had a great game today by all accounts!
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 18, 2018 23:46:02 GMT
Having little chuckle watching brooks go down for penalty after fouling bennet and cardiff fans singing same old english hes a Welsh international lol That was more in reference to Bournemouth as a whole, we couldn't really make out specific players in the rain either Brooks needs to cut the diving out of his game, he was diving all over the place yesterday, he could do with bulking up a bit too We need more divers if anything, adding a new weapon to the Wales arsenal. We've been beaten for far too long by countries less developed than us through dodgy penalties. Playing fair is for losers, moral points don't get you to a world cup or help avoid relegation.
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Post by Gary Williams on Aug 19, 2018 0:18:41 GMT
That was more in reference to Bournemouth as a whole, we couldn't really make out specific players in the rain either Brooks needs to cut the diving out of his game, he was diving all over the place yesterday, he could do with bulking up a bit too We need more divers if anything, adding a new weapon to the Wales arsenal. We've been beaten for far too long by countries less developed than us through dodgy penalties. Playing fair is for losers, moral points don't get you to a world cup or help avoid relegation. He was great today just needs to score only one of Bournemouths new signings to start both games
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 14:03:52 GMT
Playing devils advocate here but is everyone still confident he will be a welsh player if he keeps playing like this and all the hype goes into overdrive and England come back in and bend his ear?
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 19, 2018 14:11:09 GMT
Playing devils advocate here but is everyone still confident he will be a welsh player if he keeps playing like this and all the hype goes into overdrive and England come back in and bend his ear? 100% yes. He's always said it's Wales for him.
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 19, 2018 19:11:04 GMT
Playing devils advocate here but is everyone still confident he will be a welsh player if he keeps playing like this and all the hype goes into overdrive and England come back in and bend his ear? 100% yes. He's always said it's Wales for him. He did ditch us before to become England's player of the tournament at Toulon though. Need to get him capped vs. Ireland or Denmark before he becomes another Januzaj fiasco.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 19, 2018 19:26:02 GMT
100% yes. He's always said it's Wales for him. He did ditch us before to become England's player of the tournament at Toulon though. Need to get him capped vs. Ireland or Denmark before he becomes another Januzaj fiasco. Go back and look at why he played for England mate.
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 19, 2018 20:52:50 GMT
He did ditch us before to become England's player of the tournament at Toulon though. Need to get him capped vs. Ireland or Denmark before he becomes another Januzaj fiasco. Go back and look at why he played for England mate. Rather than me spend time searching for some obscure interview, couldn't you just say if you know the reason he chose England?
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Post by insertname on Aug 19, 2018 21:09:57 GMT
Go back and look at why he played for England mate. Rather than me spend time searching for some obscure interview, couldn't you just say if you know the reason he chose England? He was advised to by Osian.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 19, 2018 21:10:20 GMT
Go back and look at why he played for England mate. Rather than me spend time searching for some obscure interview, couldn't you just say if you know the reason he chose England? He was expecting to get a call up from Wales, and Wales were due to name him in their squad without making contact with him. But England contacted him saying they'd like to call him up, and at that time he hadn't heard from the Wales camp, so he assumed Wales weren't interested and said yes to England. Wales named him in their squad a few hours later after he had already accepted the invitation from England, so it was an administrative error on our part not to contact him. Brooks then told the Wales camp that he still wished to play for them, but Wales encouraged him to go and play for England for the Toulon tournament to experience their setup. He has said in interviews since then that he only ever wanted to play for Wales if he was wanted by us, and he hasn't gone back to any part of the England setup since. No need to panic on this one. Dai and Ampadu are both fully committed to Wales.
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Post by dai on Aug 19, 2018 21:31:24 GMT
England have plenty players like Brooks on their books. He'll be just another number to them, despite how good we think he is.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Aug 19, 2018 22:29:31 GMT
Rather than me spend time searching for some obscure interview, couldn't you just say if you know the reason he chose England? He was expecting to get a call up from Wales, and Wales were due to name him in their squad without making contact with him. But England contacted him saying they'd like to call him up, and at that time he hadn't heard from the Wales camp, so he assumed Wales weren't interested and said yes to England. Wales named him in their squad a few hours later after he had already accepted the invitation from England, so it was an administrative error on our part not to contact him. Brooks then told the Wales camp that he still wished to play for them, but Wales encouraged him to go and play for England for the Toulon tournament to experience their setup. He has said in interviews since then that he only ever wanted to play for Wales if he was wanted by us, and he hasn't gone back to any part of the England setup since. No need to panic on this one. Dai and Ampadu are both fully committed to Wales. Well that's half true from his comments after the event except for the part about Wales encouraging him to play for England in a tournament they were competing in -that makes no sense and is getting mixed up with the likes of Ampadu and Roberts being encouraged to attend England training camps in a lower age group. There's no way Wales would have named him in the squad just for him to withdraw and play for England about a day later, and then face ridicule for themselves as well as making Brooks look disloyal if that was the case. That element was never part of the story or his quotes. He did say he played for England because they'd spoken to him first but I don't think that's entirely justified if he really had his heart set on playing for Wales. If he had been named in the next England under-21 squad maybe we'd have had the same situation but he wasn't so we'll never know. I think its real unlikely he'll jump ship now though
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 20, 2018 8:56:22 GMT
Just saw the highlights on MOTD and he looked really lively and involved in most of their good play, nearly scoring a couple of times. Goals will come soon no doubt. He was also getting the physical treatment by the West Ham defence but didn't allow himself to be bullied and drew plenty of fouls in the process.
I'd start him against ROI but suspect he'll come on for the last 20/30 mins or so.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 20, 2018 9:28:48 GMT
Just saw the highlights on MOTD and he looked really lively and involved in most of their good play, nearly scoring a couple of times. Goals will come soon no doubt. He was also getting the physical treatment by the West Ham defence but didn't allow himself to be bullied and drew plenty of fouls in the process. I'd start him against ROI but suspect he'll come on for the last 20/30 mins or so. Yeah totally agree, but he has to start really, hes probably the most in-form Welsh player (outside of the Bale bubble). Id play Brooks in behind Vokes, with Allen and Rambo slightly further back, can asses the game, if we have dominance, it would allow Ramsey to go forward more, if we need to shore up then we can bring in Ledley or Ampadu (if not starting at the back), to make us more solid. With Lawrence and Bale providing the width, with Woodburn and Wilson as options from the bench, i like the balance of that. We certainly need a forward who is going to start games though, and its doesnt look like Giggs fancies Hal, and i wouldn't like to limit Bale's contribution by sticking him up top and being isolated.
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 20, 2018 9:30:32 GMT
Nice little write up of his performance here: www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/20/premier-league-10-talking-points-from-the-weekend-action10) Brooks slotting in well to Howe’s settled side It is hugely encouraging for a team as settled as Bournemouth that David Brooks already appears to have a good understanding of Eddie Howe’s demands. The midfielder’s performance in in the win against Manuel Pellegrini’s unbalanced West Ham demonstrated the value of dipping into the Championship and the early signs are Howe has found a big talent. The Wales international was the only new signing to start for Bournemouth at the London Stadium and the 21‑year‑old did not look fazed by his lack of Premier League experience, creating a fine chance for Callum Wilson, almost scoring twice and earning the free‑kick that led to Steve Cook’s winner. “The only surprise for me has been how quickly he’s adapted to the position because last season he was playing as a No 10 for Sheffield United,” Howe said. “We’ve used him as a wide player and he’s settled very well.” Jacob Steinberg
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Post by manulike on Aug 21, 2018 13:40:48 GMT
For me, in his Wales matches and v the Bluebirds, Dai showed trickery and some nice moves, but was almost negligent or at least sloppy in his defensive duties. Compared to Woodburn and Wilson, who so far have always had a great balance of discipline defensively as well as razor sharpness going forward.
On Saturday v West Ham, was the first time when he started to show that he can defend as well.
If he carries on starting for Bournemouth and bulks up a bit, he should start over in Aarhus.
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Post by iot on Aug 21, 2018 14:05:27 GMT
I think it's really close between Woodburn, Wilson and Brooks at the moment, and probably Lawrence too, so we should start with whoever's in best form.
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Post by manulike on Aug 21, 2018 20:54:00 GMT
I think it's really close between Woodburn, Wilson and Brooks at the moment, and probably Lawrence too, so we should start with whoever's in best form. Allow me to disagree with you there. Tom has been in top form for team AND country for the last 12 months. For me, he is a nailed on starter. Then, its between Dai and Harry to fight for the other winger's shirt, with Woody doing the super-sub role ;-)
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Post by iot on Aug 21, 2018 21:22:04 GMT
I think it's really close between Woodburn, Wilson and Brooks at the moment, and probably Lawrence too, so we should start with whoever's in best form. Allow me to disagree with you there. Tom has been in top form for team AND country for the last 12 months. For me, he is a nailed on starter. Then, its between Dai and Harry to fight for the other winger's shirt, with Woody doing the super-sub role ;-)
So Bale doesn't make your team then? Don't tell me you want to play him up front too? We have to play Bale where he's most effective. I've seen him play as a CF for Madrid and he always struggles to get into the game. I agree that Tom played well for us the last few games of the WC campaign (barring Ireland where everyone had a stinker). However, he's still too much of a luxury player for me i.e. if he doesn't score, he doesn't contribute at all. Having said that, if he continues to score like this while the others aren't doing much, I would definitely start him.
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Post by welwyn on Aug 22, 2018 12:36:18 GMT
Dai's problem may well be that he has taken that next step AS a right winger...problem is that means you either move Bale or you play Brooks in a different position to the one he has impressed in this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 12:47:01 GMT
Dai's problem may well be that he has taken that next step AS a right winger...problem is that means you either move Bale or you play Brooks in a different position to the one he has impressed in this season. No problem- just let them roam around
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