Joe Rodon

[hooky]

After Woodburn, he is the biggest disappoint in recent times I’m terms of the development of a young international. It’s pretty incredible - Rennes can’t be above Championship level can they? It’s pretty sad watching such a player’s career go so downhill

[jimexotic]

Club Careers

Joe Rodon, 25 - 97 starts in all competitions
Ben Woodburn 23 - 56 starts in all competitions
Danny Ward 29 - 130 starts in all competitions
Mark Harris 24 - 67 starts in all competitions

It's just not good enough, not for international football, sharpness is everything.

[fiveattheback]

Leaving Swansea for Spurs was a terrible decision, he hadn't even really had a full Championship season under his belt at that point.

He's never played 30 club games in a season and he's 25, bizzare

[dai]

Really dissapointing how his career’s panned out. I though, perhaps naively, that he would have broken into the Spurs team by now. I still think theres a good player there, and could be PL standard. I wonder what will happen next year if he’s still a bit part player and Lockyer may be playing in the Prem with Luton.

[quetzal]

Our joint worst player at the World Cup. Connor Roberts was the other, closely followed by Bale and Ramsey

[cynonvalley]

I'm still confused as to why Spurs bought him in the first place

[wirralwelsh]

Apr 9, 2023 18:35:52 GMT quetzal said:

Our joint worst player at the World Cup. Connor Roberts was the other, closely followed by Bale and Ramsey

I thought Roberts did alright when he came on against England. James was the worst for me, with Ramsay close behind. Rodon was decent at the Euros at least.

[quetzal]

Apr 10, 2023 2:24:50 GMT wirralwelsh said:

Apr 9, 2023 18:35:52 GMT quetzal said:

Our joint worst player at the World Cup. Connor Roberts was the other, closely followed by Bale and Ramsey

I thought Roberts did alright when he came on against England. James was the worst for me, with Ramsay close behind. Rodon was decent at the Euros at least.

For the record I still believe in Joe Rodon. I just thought it was rabbit in headlights stuff at the World Cup

[hc16040]

Apr 9, 2023 17:45:33 GMT dai said:

Really dissapointing how his career’s panned out. I though, perhaps naively, that he would have broken into the Spurs team by now. I still think theres a good player there, and could be PL standard. I wonder what will happen next year if he’s still a bit part player and Lockyer may be playing in the Prem with Luton.

To be fair he was starting to be first choice uner Mourinho before he got sacked and Ryan Mason started jobs 4 da bois again.

[rushy]

He is at a point where he needs to reassess himself and his attitude in going forward, find a club that wants him and improve his overall game.

[majorraglan]

I think there’s a really tidy player inside Joe Rodin, but for some reason we’re not seeing it. He needs a move to a club where the manager and coaches can get the nes5 out of him.

[jimexotic]

Centre back could be a really strong position for us but it seesaws all the time because potentially very good players fall out of form and favour consistently, players are injured, systems don't necessarily suit certain players and squad depth means some have to play elsewhere

Mepham - From player of the month to dropped
Rodon - See this thread
Cabango - Colossal or erratic, often in the same game
Lockyer - Age appears to be counting against him
Davies - Really depends on the formation and team we put out
RND - Injured for the last half year, often needed out wide
Ampadu - Needed in midfield
Hughes - Never given a chance
Lawrence - Appears to be over for him now after his errors

I know we've got a few promising kids coming through but we really need to have a nailed on defence that are all playing regularly. We went into a World Cup that happened mid season, nobody fatigued and players fully up to speed, we suffered because many of ours weren't because they weren't playing. Had that been in the summer, at the end of the season, it might have counted in our favour but it absolutely crippled us in my opinion.

[fiveattheback]

Mepham was back in for Bournemouth and impressed the other day didn't he?

He's our best centre back option, especially if we go with a back 4. Rodon needs to get games otherwise I'd play Lockyer, though I think it may be his height, not age, that counts against him

[quetzal]

Apr 10, 2023 12:11:09 GMT jimexotic said:

Centre back could be a really strong position for us but it seesaws all the time because potentially very good players fall out of form and favour consistently, players are injured, systems don't necessarily suit certain players and squad depth means some have to play elsewhere

Mepham - From player of the month to dropped
Rodon - See this thread
Cabango - Colossal or erratic, often in the same game
Lockyer - Age appears to be counting against him
Davies - Really depends on the formation and team we put out
RND - Injured for the last half year, often needed out wide
Ampadu - Needed in midfield
Hughes - Never given a chance
Lawrence - Appears to be over for him now after his errors

I know we've got a few promising kids coming through but we really need to have a nailed on defence that are all playing regularly. We went into a World Cup that happened mid season, nobody fatigued and players fully up to speed, we suffered because many of ours weren't because they weren't playing. Had that been in the summer, at the end of the season, it might have counted in our favour but it absolutely crippled us in my opinion.

Football is the here and now. Lockyer got a Euros and World Cup in him.

[hooky]

Apr 10, 2023 12:16:49 GMT fiveattheback said:

Mepham was back in for Bournemouth and impressed the other day didn't he?

He's our best centre back option, especially if we go with a back 4. Rodon needs to get games otherwise I'd play Lockyer, though I think it may be his height, not age, that counts against him

Lockyer is not good enough for international level. Every game I saw him play for Wales he gave a potential big chance away often from a totally unforced error. There is a reason he plays where he does!

At that level height makes a difference to and he is about 3 inches shorter than Rodon and Mepham

[jimexotic]

Yeah Mepham got himself back in the starting eleven at the weekend and they won and kept a clean sheet in away day relegation six pointer so hopefully this is the start of another run of games for him and hopefully cementing himself as the main man there, I agree, he's our best out and out centre back.

I think Lockyer has potentially 6 years of International football in him, certainly as a squad player, I rate him and he's quite versatile too in terms of how you can use him in a back four or five, comfortable enough on the ball too.

[jimexotic]

Apr 10, 2023 12:50:09 GMT hooky said:

Apr 10, 2023 12:16:49 GMT fiveattheback said:

Mepham was back in for Bournemouth and impressed the other day didn't he?

He's our best centre back option, especially if we go with a back 4. Rodon needs to get games otherwise I'd play Lockyer, though I think it may be his height, not age, that counts against him

Lockyer is not good enough for international level. Every game I saw him play for Wales he gave a potential big chance away often from a totally unforced error. There is a reason he plays where he does!

At that level height makes a difference to and he is about 3 inches shorter than Rodon and Mepham

Lockyer is the main centre back at the side third in the Championship with the third best defence in terms of goals conceded. Luton have lost 8 games out of 40, placing them second behind Champions elect, Burnley, for the least amount of losses. I think Lockyer has more than played a part in this, it's not like he's playing for Oxford United or someone, he's on the verge of the Premier League, for the second season running.

[fiveattheback]

Apr 10, 2023 12:50:09 GMT hooky said:

Apr 10, 2023 12:16:49 GMT fiveattheback said:

Mepham was back in for Bournemouth and impressed the other day didn't he?

He's our best centre back option, especially if we go with a back 4. Rodon needs to get games otherwise I'd play Lockyer, though I think it may be his height, not age, that counts against him

Lockyer is not good enough for international level. Every game I saw him play for Wales he gave a potential big chance away often from a totally unforced error. There is a reason he plays where he does!

At that level height makes a difference to and he is about 3 inches shorter than Rodon and Mepham

Lockyer is easily good enough, I don't recall him looking particularly out of place when he played in qualifiers

Plays where he does?  3rd in the Championship is a better level than lots of our squad players!  I'd rather play a regular starter at the top end of the Championship over someone not getting games in Ligue 1

[ontheroadagain2]

Joe makes a rare start for Rennes today and they are 1 up already. Based on stats so far he is in for a quiet afternoon, but a run out is good for Wales.

[rushy]

Looks like Joe had an easy re introduction to playing.

[bale-droed]

If Luton go up I can see Rodon joining them.

I think it's between them and Swansea for his signature.

[welwyn]

May 22, 2023 5:21:28 GMT bale-droed said:

If Luton go up I can see Rodon joining them.

I think it's between them and Swansea for his signature.

No way would we afford his wages. Even if we were to win on Saturday, I can't see out wage cap going above £15-20k at most (with a hefty relegation wage drop attached). Guessing Rodon is on about £25-30k.  Sure, he may take a wage cut to play but I reckon Spurs would want a Return on investment of the £11m they shelled out and I can't see us paying more than £5-8m on any one player as most of the money would be earmarked on making sure the we can build the new stadium completely debt free and make us sustainable with a mid-table Championship budget. If we were to pay more than that for one player, I imagine it would be for Nakamba or Drameh as they are our current loanees and are at least know quantities for us. (Albeit, I don't think Nakamba would cost that and I think Drameh will probably start for Leeds were they to go up)

We could loan him but given that PL rules state you can have 2 loans from other PL clubs and only one per club, I don't think a right-footed CB would be high enough priority to waste one on. Unless of course Lockyer still refuses to sign a new deal, which I can't see if we were to win on Saturday.

[rushy]

A section of the report from Football London

, but there was a rare start and 90 minutes, plus a clean sheet, for Joe Rodon on Sunday as Rennes beat Ajaccio 5-0 on the road.
It was the Welshman's first minutes in Ligue 1 since mid-February and he looked sharp despite his lack of minutes, including one long dribble from his own box into the hosts' half of the pitch before playing a sweeping through ball.

"Joe Rodon shows an exemplary mindset, although he does not play," Rennes head coach Bruno Genesio said ahead of the game. "I want to mention it because it is not easy, even less for Joe (due to his lack of minutes)."

Rennes technical director Florian Maurice confirmed in the week that the French club would not be looking to extend the loans of either of the Tottenham duo.

[allezlesrouges]

May 22, 2023 8:44:50 GMT welwyn said:

May 22, 2023 5:21:28 GMT bale-droed said:

If Luton go up I can see Rodon joining them.

I think it's between them and Swansea for his signature.

No way would we afford his wages. Even if we were to win on Saturday, I can't see out wage cap going above £15-20k at most (with a hefty relegation wage drop attached). Guessing Rodon is on about £25-30k.  Sure, he may take a wage cut to play but I reckon Spurs would want a Return on investment of the £11m they shelled out and I can't see us paying more than £5-8m on any one player as most of the money would be earmarked on making sure the we can build the new stadium completely debt free and make us sustainable with a mid-table Championship budget. If we were to pay more than that for one player, I imagine it would be for Nakamba or Drameh as they are our current loanees and are at least know quantities for us. (Albeit, I don't think Nakamba would cost that and I think Drameh will probably start for Leeds were they to go up)

We could loan him but given that PL rules state you can have 2 loans from other PL clubs and only one per club, I don't think a right-footed CB would be high enough priority to waste one on. Unless of course Lockyer still refuses to sign a new deal, which I can't see if we were to win on Saturday.

I could see Spurs accepting a reduced figure for him as I don't think he's shown enough for them to demand to make a profit on him. I could also see him taking a cut, as I don't think too many PL sides would be in for him at this point

[dai]

Watched some of the highlights back, not that I really wanted to, but just to check on a few things.

Rodon is one lazy bas*tard. His positioning recovery and tracking back has become terrible. For two goals (inc the one where he lost the ball), his effort to get back was abysmal. A leisurely jog. Players, especially those who lose balls themselves should be busting a gut to make up for errors.

He needs dropping indefinetely until he starts playing for a club more, shows a bit more bloody desire and sorts out his attitude.

Im annoyed because he hardly gets singled out amongst the majority of the fanbase.


Lockyer will put him to shame - if Page even selects him.

[bale-droed]

Jun 18, 2023 23:19:24 GMT dai said:

Watched some of the highlights back, not that I really wanted to, but just to check on a few things.

Rodon is one lazy bas*tard. His positioning recovery and tracking back has become terrible. For two goals (inc the one where he lost the ball), his effort to get back was abysmal. A leisurely jog. Players, especially those who lose balls themselves should be busting a gut to make up for errors.

He needs dropping indefinetely until he starts playing for a club more, shows a bit more bloody desire and sorts out his attitude.

Im annoyed because he hardly gets singled out amongst the majority of the fanbase.


Lockyer will put him to shame - if Page even selects him.

Personally I said back in November id start Lockyer over him and I basically got insulted on this forum. Going back a bit Rodon was an embarrassment for Wales v Denmark. His behavior in that game was something I never hoped to see in a Welsh shirt. He is talented but he needs an attitude adjustment. Every media outlet associated with Tottenham has already said he needs the be 100% sold in the summer.

[talyfan]

Moore does the same loses it and just throws his arms and has a huff. Lanky bugger should be busting a gut to get it back.

[bale-droed]

Jun 19, 2023 5:32:15 GMT talyfan said:

Moore does the same loses it and just throws his arms and has a huff. Lanky bugger should be busting a gut to get it back.

Absolutely. He's a Welsh hero with the amount of important goals he's scored. Absolute tit though.

[dai]

Jun 19, 2023 5:32:15 GMT talyfan said:

Moore does the same loses it and just throws his arms and has a huff. Lanky bugger should be busting a gut to get it back.

There is a lot of moaning and pettiness in the camp - Wilson is another one who just constantly complains about everything like a spoilt child.

Signs of an unhappy camp when players start regularly behaving like this.

But they've learnt from the best. All Page does is moan and whinge, while having no accountability.

[allezlesrouges]

Jun 18, 2023 23:19:24 GMT dai said:

Watched some of the highlights back, not that I really wanted to, but just to check on a few things.

Rodon is one lazy bas*tard. His positioning recovery and tracking back has become terrible. For two goals (inc the one where he lost the ball), his effort to get back was abysmal. A leisurely jog. Players, especially those who lose balls themselves should be busting a gut to make up for errors.

He needs dropping indefinetely until he starts playing for a club more, shows a bit more bloody desire and sorts out his attitude.

Im annoyed because he hardly gets singled out amongst the majority of the fanbase.


Lockyer will put him to shame - if Page even selects him.

I'm amazed to see how many people are still putting him in their lineups after that last performance. I've seen people rip into Page on twitter and then pick Rodon in their lineups! For my money if we're only allowed to make 1 change from the last game it should be Rodon for Cabango

I agree, don't play him until he's improved at club level and getting regular minutes, Lockyer a dead cert to start when he returns, no way Lockyer would have made any of those mistakes last week