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Post by 60sred on Nov 8, 2022 9:42:47 GMT
Jones imo has to take the Southampton job if he is offered it. The chance may never come again for hom as clubs do not go for British managers unless they have previous experience in the league. My only concern is how he will cope in the pressure cooker scope of the media in the premier league. He may well have to accept that with being in charge of a lower league side he will find that decisions by refs dont very often go in your favour.
Prime example this week the penalty for Man City given the one for Forest not
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Post by insertname on Nov 8, 2022 11:34:15 GMT
He’s already left once trying to prove himself at a basket case club and then came back. Southampton have a Stoke MKII vibe. Since their change of ownership they’ve been treading water in the Premier league.
Brighton would have been a good, stable ambitious club for him to end up at but given how Potter had improved them I guess they had bigger ideas than the manager of Luton Town.
He’s been doing consistently well at Luton, last season was obviously not a one off so he doesn’t have to move straight away to capitalise on 15 minutes of success. So imo he’s in a position where he can afford to wait and he’ll probably get a decent offer if he hangs tight and continues to impress with Luton.
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Post by 60sred on Nov 8, 2022 12:29:58 GMT
I agree that Southampton might not be the most stable of jobs, but there are a number of ex premier league managers who will be itching to have another go. Also i didnt know Jones was is nearly 50 so this chance might not present its self again.
You also have to take into consideration bigger named managers in the championship like Kompany & Carrick if they prove to be a success will be in front of Jones as a possible manager and also a lot younger with the potential to recruit better through their contacts.
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Post by iot on Nov 8, 2022 13:26:55 GMT
Southampton should be doing much better than they currently are given the quality in the squad, so I think it's a good move for him.
It probably doesn't help us, though, because we can only afford managers that are on the way up or on the way down. Jones has probably gone past the point now where we could be a genuine option for him.
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Post by insertname on Nov 8, 2022 15:40:43 GMT
I wouldn’t say even on the way up. Page failed at Port Vale, Giggs couldn’t get anyone else to hire him, Coleman washed up. Even Speed was struggling at Sheffield United.
Anyone with options isn’t likely to choose Wales. We are a better proposition now but I expect, unless the money is ridiculous, that young managers who have already been given a break and made a name for themselves want the day to day interaction, developing players on the training pitch.
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 9, 2022 14:47:57 GMT
Southampton is a step forward and no better than a step back, they're a mess and it will just be Stoke mk2 for Jones. Stay put, unpopular opinion but he'll be back managing at that level in no time because I don't think he'll do anything at Southampton, Luton and Jones are a match made in heaven.
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Post by insertname on Nov 9, 2022 14:54:17 GMT
I’d have Jones down as being a candidate for the Everton and Leeds jobs which will both be available in the near future. Both better than Southampton, Leeds only marginally though. Everton with their tendency piss money up the wall backing their manager could be a really good shout if he stays put and bides his time.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 4, 2023 21:31:37 GMT
Interesting:
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 4, 2023 21:37:31 GMT
Doubt he'll be a PL manager much longer...
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 4, 2023 21:52:32 GMT
Hardly a surprise that this is going horribly wrong, when is he going to learn that he and Luton were the perfect fit. He's blown it now because his replacement at Luton knows what he's doing so when he's out of work again he'll have to take a less desirable job. Danny Cowley mk2.
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Post by llan123 on Jan 4, 2023 23:03:06 GMT
Heard him interviewed on the radio post game, my god he sounded dejected, can't decide whether he needs to be buried or dug up.
Fans want him out already by the sounds. I'd take him at Wales if he fancied it though, he's shown when it clicks somewhere he can do a good job. Its actually a realistic option for us if it seriously goes tits up at Southampton.
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Post by insertname on Jan 5, 2023 0:24:00 GMT
Doubt he'll be a PL manager much longer... Lots of people saying this. Can’t believe a club would sack a manager after less than 10 games, well, a club that isn’t Watford anyway. Ah well, blokes an idiot. It was obvious Southampton were a club in crisis that any up and coming manager would need to avoid. |
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Post by insertname on Jan 5, 2023 0:27:14 GMT
Heard him interviewed on the radio post game, my god he sounded dejected, can't decide whether he needs to be buried or dug up. Fans want him out already by the sounds. I'd take him at Wales if he fancied it though, he's shown when it clicks somewhere he can do a good job. Its actually a realistic option for us if it seriously goes tits up at Southampton. A championship club with a small budget would probably out muscle Wales. If he fails at his next club though he will seem like the man who could only get a tune from the specific circumstances at Luton. That may make the Wales job the most natural place to re-boot his career. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 5, 2023 8:05:56 GMT
You can't blame the lad for taking a Premier League job. I'm more surprised that Southampton went for him.
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Post by aberbeeg on Jan 5, 2023 9:44:05 GMT
Players certainly don’t seem to be playing fir him. Doesn’t seem to command that natural respect of a big manager
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Post by garynysmon on Jan 5, 2023 11:44:32 GMT
You can't blame the lad for taking a Premier League job. I'm more surprised that Southampton went for him. Exactly, you have to bet on yourself in such a situation. You can also see why Jones, ensuring that Luton are punching way above their budget/weight in the Championship, would be an attractive prospect for a PL club looking for the same end result. Mind you, can't see Luton taking him back for a third time after this. |
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Post by surge on Jan 5, 2023 15:08:13 GMT
It would have been too big a risk with too big a downside for me but he's backed himself to get it right.
At the moment it's going badly and his schtick about his background and need to fight, which falls on right side of charming/annoying line when things end up going well, is going to be parodied in much crueler fashion on larger scale. Fingers crossed he can turn it around.
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Post by rushy on Jan 5, 2023 15:58:24 GMT
Maybe Southampton are looking to the future with his appointment, if they do go down they have a Championship manager already in place.
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Post by saturn9 on Jan 5, 2023 16:37:24 GMT
Surprised no one on here has made any Bananarama gags😉
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 5, 2023 17:00:05 GMT
Maybe Southampton are looking to the future with his appointment, if they do go down they have a Championship manager already in place. He didn't exactly do well at Stoke. |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 5, 2023 19:08:49 GMT
After his failure at Stoke and the state Southampton were and are in I'm surprised he took it, it's probably the least desirable job in the Premier League.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 7, 2023 15:45:37 GMT
Much needed win today…in the cup
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 14, 2023 16:58:25 GMT
Three wins in a week including Man City and relegation rivals
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Post by insertname on Feb 4, 2023 22:54:05 GMT
As predicted he’s dropped an absolute bollock by going to Southampton. Not helping himself either by his interviews which rub me up the wrong way- trying to distance himself from failure. He could sharpen up the Wales set up no doubt but he’s piss me right off with his interviewed where he’ll throw everyone under the bus apart from himself.
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Post by dai on Feb 4, 2023 23:33:37 GMT
He's never come across as likeable imo. Something very harsh and brash about him, strange bloke.
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 5, 2023 2:09:24 GMT
Doesn't look like Luton miss him, doesn't look like Southampton will either when he's gone.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Feb 5, 2023 8:07:21 GMT
I wouldn't want him at Wales, even though he's definitely had enough success as a manager to put himself in contention for the job in the future the reaction to result's like today's only creates a toxic atmosphere between management, players and fans.
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Post by dai on Feb 5, 2023 21:48:48 GMT
This is proper cringeworthy stuff, hope the FAW steer well clear of him.
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Post by insertname on Feb 5, 2023 22:10:14 GMT
That’s a bit out of context though- he’s saying statistically there weren’t many better managers than him at Luton for certain metrics. If that’s true then he’s got a point!
What is a bigger black mark against him imo is the crap he was putting out there when Southampton did have that small run of results and he was claiming they were playing excellent football. He got called out on it by Chris Sutton as talking absolute nonsense. I think the bloke has got a raging ego and when things aren’t going well he’ll rub supporters up the wrong way.
I expect he’ll be begging the FAW for a job when Page leaves and he’ll probably get it. His reputation both as a person and as a manager had
a taken a massive hit with the fact he’s struggled anywhere that isn’t Luton and his attitude is none too sparkling either. Plenty of chairmen will be wary from now on.
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Post by surge on Feb 6, 2023 11:56:27 GMT
Think it's unfair to suggest he's struggled away from Luton as he did well before becoming a manager as coach at different clubs.
I don't mind him talking up performances either as this will be one tactic to have players and fans, especially youngsters, buy into the day-to-day process which should lead to actually improving performances - arguably this has happened though limited to cup competitions only. I can even sympathise with him criticising fans of Southampton who were against him from the start, though a smarter manager would have sough to charm them back on side rather than calling them out for it.
Stoke have been slipping backwards since end of 15-16 season, Southampton was a mistake to join mid-season but many club owners will now be concerned by how tightly wound and proud he seems to be. A bit like a Welsh Jose Mourinho without as much pedigree.
Luton are one of the best run sides in top two English divisions and probably have moved on from wanting Nathan Jones to return. I don't know where he'll go next.
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