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Jun 9, 2018 18:26:45 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Jun 9, 2018 18:26:45 GMT
Still awaiting an answer... There were plenty of alternatives to Giggs Roberts and Bellamy if you wanted Welsh or even Carl Robinson As for outside of Wales it may of been worth waiting until after the world cup
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Jun 14, 2018 13:41:31 GMT
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Post by insertname on Jun 14, 2018 13:41:31 GMT
10 minutes in to the coverage and Giggs pops up on ITV at the Luzhniki!
'Looking for trends' apparently. Didn't confirm if he was talking about football or fashion mind...
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Jun 14, 2018 15:02:56 GMT
Post by dlwilliams on Jun 14, 2018 15:02:56 GMT
10 minutes in to the coverage and Giggs pops up on ITV at the Luzhniki! 'Looking for trends' apparently. Didn't confirm if he was talking about football or fashion mind... Coleman did say prior to Belgium away in 2014 that the decision to utilise the five/three at the back system had been partly influenced by the Netherlands' success in using the same system in Brazil.
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Jun 25, 2018 22:32:42 GMT
Post by manulike on Jun 25, 2018 22:32:42 GMT
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Jun 26, 2018 8:45:18 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jun 26, 2018 8:45:18 GMT
Giggs will be able to put his new found comfort in front of the TV cameras to good use as it has confirmed he will be a pundit for ITV at the World Cup in Russia. Good call, I'd expect him to be at the World Cup as an international manager anyway (hopefully ITV get most of Denmark's games), but we also have no idea who we will get in Euro's qualifying, so he needs to be looking at all of the European countries as potential opponents. He may as well get paid while doing it. I'm sure MoN or Keane will be doing the same. Well he must have studied all the 'trends', watched enough of Denmark and seen all there is to see of all our next potential opponents because he now is in Hong Kong! There's a World Cup on, the Wales pro-licence training is on, a time when most schools would willingly accommodate a training session from a great ex-player but our glorious leader prefers to spend time in Hong Kong.
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Jun 26, 2018 9:21:27 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jun 26, 2018 9:21:27 GMT
Good call, I'd expect him to be at the World Cup as an international manager anyway (hopefully ITV get most of Denmark's games), but we also have no idea who we will get in Euro's qualifying, so he needs to be looking at all of the European countries as potential opponents. He may as well get paid while doing it. I'm sure MoN or Keane will be doing the same. Well he must have studied all the 'trends', watched enough of Denmark and seen all there is to see of all our next potential opponents because he now is in Hong Kong! There's a World Cup on, the Wales pro-licence training is on, a time when most schools would willingly accommodate a training session from a great ex-player but our glorious leader prefers to spend time in Hong Kong. Do we know why he is in Hong Kong?
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Jun 26, 2018 9:46:14 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jun 26, 2018 9:46:14 GMT
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Jun 26, 2018 10:30:55 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jun 26, 2018 10:30:55 GMT
Just when I think he was making progress as well... The not going on the road to meet the fans is a bugbear of mine. Think it is a huge missed opportunity.
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Jun 26, 2018 11:39:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 11:39:45 GMT
Coleman and Giggs are completely different characters and our incumbent manager isn’t outgoing like Cookie was.
I myself have never been particularly bothered meeting anyone representing our nation. Perhaps PR / Supporter Services to discuss our needs as fans but not players / management.
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Post by cymroircarn on Jun 26, 2018 11:46:08 GMT
Coleman and Giggs are completely different characters and our incumbent manager isn’t outgoing like Cookie was. I myself have never been particularly bothered meeting anyone representing our nation. Perhaps PR / Supporter Services to discuss our needs as fans but not players / management. It was Speed who started the face to face meetings with fans. I believe due to the mixed opinion of fans regards Giggs appointment face to face engagement would go a long way to build these bridges.
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Jun 26, 2018 12:01:54 GMT
Post by superunknown on Jun 26, 2018 12:01:54 GMT
Coleman and Giggs are completely different characters and our incumbent manager isn’t outgoing like Cookie was. I myself have never been particularly bothered meeting anyone representing our nation. Perhaps PR / Supporter Services to discuss our needs as fans but not players / management. It was Speed who started the face to face meetings with fans. I believe due to the mixed opinion of fans regards Giggs appointment face to face engagement would go a long way to build these bridges. Absolutely this. First time I went to one was when Coleman did them. He was asked a lot of good questions and had honest replies. Think a lot including myself came away feeling a lot happier about his appointment.
Giggs could and should be taking lessons from our previous two managers. We're not a large country, it wouldn't take too long out of his week to schedule a few stops around Wales and win over some of the doubters.
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Jun 26, 2018 12:23:52 GMT
Post by iot on Jun 26, 2018 12:23:52 GMT
It was Speed who started the face to face meetings with fans. I believe due to the mixed opinion of fans regards Giggs appointment face to face engagement would go a long way to build these bridges. Absolutely this. First time I went to one was when Coleman did them. He was asked a lot of good questions and had honest replies. Think a lot including myself came away feeling a lot happier about his appointment.
Giggs could and should be taking lessons from our previous two managers. We're not a large country, it wouldn't take too long out of his week to schedule a few stops around Wales and win over some of the doubters.
That may be the issue, he probably knows that he doesn't have the charisma to win over supported. People might leave those events thinking he's a worse appointment than when they entered. Look at this for example: www.joe.co.uk/sport/ryan-giggs-man-united-itv-world-cup-184367Embarrassing stuff
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Post by richierich333 on Jun 26, 2018 12:29:26 GMT
Good call, I'd expect him to be at the World Cup as an international manager anyway (hopefully ITV get most of Denmark's games), but we also have no idea who we will get in Euro's qualifying, so he needs to be looking at all of the European countries as potential opponents. He may as well get paid while doing it. I'm sure MoN or Keane will be doing the same. Well he must have studied all the 'trends', watched enough of Denmark and seen all there is to see of all our next potential opponents because he now is in Hong Kong! There's a World Cup on, the Wales pro-licence training is on, a time when most schools would willingly accommodate a training session from a great ex-player but our glorious leader prefers to spend time in Hong Kong. If we do lose to Denmark and/or Ireland it will be 0% related to this shopping centre opening during the world cup.
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Jun 26, 2018 12:52:38 GMT
Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 26, 2018 12:52:38 GMT
What he does in his spare time is up to him, hes only paid part time by Wales.
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Jun 26, 2018 14:21:08 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Jun 26, 2018 14:21:08 GMT
What he does in his spare time is up to him, hes only paid part time by Wales. Unfortunately every little thing will be scrutinised now, just for an excuse to have a bash. If that shopping mall was in Wales would it make any difference? No its still unrelated to football so why does it matter he's in Hong Kong so much? He could be opening an Asda on the moon for all I care.
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Post by manulike on Jun 26, 2018 17:21:37 GMT
What he does in his spare time is up to him, hes only paid part time by Wales. Agree completely. If I were offered a free ticket in first class to fly over to the most gorgeous city in the world ... I'd have done the exact same.
I just hope he printed out my info sheet before he went over ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 19:45:34 GMT
I can honestly say I’m behind him solely because he’s the Wales manager. Coleman may have had all the charisma in the world but he also had shambolic spells at Coventry or Sociedad beforehand and is now managing in China.
Watching Wales is all about the journey there and making new friends. Having a selfie with Giggs doesn’t interest me.
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Jun 26, 2018 21:37:38 GMT
Post by dlwilliams on Jun 26, 2018 21:37:38 GMT
Can I just ask why is everyone so obsessed by this idea that Giggs has to meet the fans in their local clubs etc. ? People are being quite selective with their memory on this topic. I can't remember Coleman doing many meet and greets until after we qualified for the Euros, but it wasn't an issue before then.
If Giggs doesn't feel comfortable doing it (he is a different personality to Coleman - less outgoing, even by his own admission), then so what? I couldn't care less. I care more about what happens on the pitch, not off it.
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Jun 26, 2018 21:57:47 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jun 26, 2018 21:57:47 GMT
Well he must have studied all the 'trends', watched enough of Denmark and seen all there is to see of all our next potential opponents because he now is in Hong Kong! There's a World Cup on, the Wales pro-licence training is on, a time when most schools would willingly accommodate a training session from a great ex-player but our glorious leader prefers to spend time in Hong Kong. If we do lose to Denmark and/or Ireland it will be 0% related to this shopping centre opening during the world cup. Really?? Why to Managers go do 'watch' teams or players then? If they could gleen the same amount of information from the comfort of their living room / pundits chair, they would do so. If Giggs had been to watch Denmark play he might have spotted differences over the three games as to how they set themselves up, whether a particular player had a weakness that could be exploited and so. Instead he has flown to Hong Kong to sign Man U shirts for Chinese kids. What he does in his spare time is up to him, hes only paid part time by Wales. Unfortunately every little thing will be scrutinised now, just for an excuse to have a bash. If that shopping mall was in Wales would it make any difference? No its still unrelated to football so why does it matter he's in Hong Kong so much? He could be opening an Asda on the moon for all I care. If he had gone to Harlech rather than Honkers of course it would have made a difference. We would have met Welsh kids. Our sons and daughters, our nieces and nephews. Those people who are the future of Welsh football. It matters that he can find time to take a 10 hour flight to HK, but can't find time to meet Welsh supporters in Aberystwyth. He might be on a part-time contract, but he is on a full-time wage. I have committed over £2,500 to support him in his first few games. Is it too much to ask that he shows some commitment back?
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Jun 27, 2018 6:37:39 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Jun 27, 2018 6:37:39 GMT
If we do lose to Denmark and/or Ireland it will be 0% related to this shopping centre opening during the world cup. Really?? Why to Managers go do 'watch' teams or players then? If they could gleen the same amount of information from the comfort of their living room / pundits chair, they would do so. If Giggs had been to watch Denmark play he might have spotted differences over the three games as to how they set themselves up, whether a particular player had a weakness that could be exploited and so. Instead he has flown to Hong Kong to sign Man U shirts for Chinese kids. Unfortunately every little thing will be scrutinised now, just for an excuse to have a bash. If that shopping mall was in Wales would it make any difference? No its still unrelated to football so why does it matter he's in Hong Kong so much? He could be opening an Asda on the moon for all I care. If he had gone to Harlech rather than Honkers of course it would have made a difference. We would have met Welsh kids. Our sons and daughters, our nieces and nephews. Those people who are the future of Welsh football. It matters that he can find time to take a 10 hour flight to HK, but can't find time to meet Welsh supporters in Aberystwyth. He might be on a part-time contract, but he is on a full-time wage. I have committed over £2,500 to support him in his first few games. Is it too much to ask that he shows some commitment back? You're making way too big a deal out of this shopping centre thing. 1. We are playing Denmark on 9 September 2. Denmark are still in the tournament.
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Jun 28, 2018 14:57:02 GMT
Post by alternativewales on Jun 28, 2018 14:57:02 GMT
I can honestly say I’m behind him solely because he’s the Wales manager. Coleman may have had all the charisma in the world but he also had shambolic spells at Coventry or Sociedad beforehand and is now managing in China. Watching Wales is all about the journey there and making new friends. Having a selfie with Giggs doesn’t interest me. That's how I feel!
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Post by rhys on Jun 28, 2018 19:50:38 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me.
‘We’
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Jun 28, 2018 20:36:41 GMT
Post by manulike on Jun 28, 2018 20:36:41 GMT
I can honestly say I’m behind him solely because he’s the Wales manager. Coleman may have had all the charisma in the world but he also had shambolic spells at Coventry or Sociedad beforehand and is now managing in China. Watching Wales is all about the journey there and making new friends. Having a selfie with Giggs doesn’t interest me. That's how I feel! Well said. 100% agree
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Jun 28, 2018 20:46:07 GMT
Post by dlwilliams on Jun 28, 2018 20:46:07 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ Even though Coleman allegedly did the same thing once upon a time? The double standards are breathtaking
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Post by joseywales37 on Jun 28, 2018 20:51:57 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ As much as would have preferred he said his point a different way, it has clearly been taken out of context. At 1st when everyone was going on about, I was pissed that he said it, but having listened back, he was clearly speaking from the point of view of how he thought England would be looking at the situation. Nothing in it imo.
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Jun 29, 2018 5:45:53 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 29, 2018 5:45:53 GMT
Can I just ask why is everyone so obsessed by this idea that Giggs has to meet the fans in their local clubs etc. ? People are being quite selective with their memory on this topic. I can't remember Coleman doing many meet and greets until after we qualified for the Euros, but it wasn't an issue before then. If Giggs doesn't feel comfortable doing it (he is a different personality to Coleman - less outgoing, even by his own admission), then so what? I couldn't care less. I care more about what happens on the pitch, not off it. I went to a Coleman meet and greet after the Bosnia home game. We’d just come off a narrow Andorra win and a 0-0 home draw, so to suggest he started doing them when things were going well is wrong. I find it strange that people are suggesting he’s in Russia to scout opponents. Wales have a team of analysts who will break down the games highlighting important stats, strengths, weaknesses, style of play, etc. Is he really sitting with the pundits taking tactical notes with Ian Wright and Lee Dixon breathing down his neck? He’s there in his job as a pundit, plain and simple, find one fault in one of the teams to get through your 3 minute segment at half time.
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Jun 29, 2018 7:48:15 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Jun 29, 2018 7:48:15 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ Cos i couldn't care less if he's in Hong Kong or on the moon at the moment. It's got eff all to do with the League of Nations. Everyone on here was moaning about him being at the world cup as a pundit and then when he leaves to do something else...more moaning. 'He opened a shopping centre in hong kong the twat!!!' what a joke i really don't care.
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Post by pendragon on Jun 29, 2018 10:01:33 GMT
Quite ironic that some of us are complaining that he's a closet Englishman commenting on an England game while a large section of the English fanbase on many a sports forum last night were questioning why there was a Welsh person on the panel!
I'll reserve judgement until I see our performances in the upcoming competitive fixtures.
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Post by melynwy on Jun 29, 2018 10:25:16 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ As much as would have preferred he said his point a different way, it has clearly been taken out of context. At 1st when everyone was going on about, I was pissed that he said it, but having listened back, he was clearly speaking from the point of view of how he thought England would be looking at the situation. Nothing in it imo. Haven't seen it myself, but if this is the case then i absolutely agree. Pundits put themselves in a player/manager/fan perspective and speak in the first person very often (e.g. "If I was the striker I'd be thinking I have to score there" or "If I was the manager I'd think WE need to win" etc.)
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Post by richierich333 on Jun 29, 2018 10:31:24 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ If we qualify for the next tournament i bet all this hating on Giggs will stop. How is he an 'absolute twat'? A few of the other guys have already said it was taken out of context. He didn't actually say 'I'm English'.
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