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Post by georgetm1 on Jun 29, 2018 11:10:54 GMT
To tell you the truth I don't know why ITV insist on using him when he is such a boring twat.
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Jun 29, 2018 11:20:03 GMT
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Post by insertname on Jun 29, 2018 11:20:03 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ If we qualify for the next tournament i bet all this hating on Giggs will stop. How is he an 'absolute twat'? A few of the other guys have already said it was taken out of context. He didn't actually say 'I'm English'. It is harder for him NOT to qualify for the Euros. Get us to a world cup, that is the task that all Welsh managers have failed to deliver on (drawing of lots aside!). If he gets us to Qatar 2022 as much as it will be an awful world cup in terms of logistics Giggs could arguably then claim to be above Coleman in the pantheon of Welsh managers.
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 29, 2018 12:18:54 GMT
Jesus, Giggs really is an absolute twat. How any of you are backing him is beyond me. ‘We’ If we qualify for the next tournament i bet all this hating on Giggs will stop. How is he an 'absolute twat'? A few of the other guys have already said it was taken out of context. He didn't actually say 'I'm English'. By ‘we’ qualifying for the next tournament do you mean Wales or the apostle messageboard? I don’t want to take it out of context cause you didn’t actually say you were Welsh, you must have meant the apostle messageboard...
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Jun 29, 2018 12:29:51 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Jun 29, 2018 12:29:51 GMT
If we qualify for the next tournament i bet all this hating on Giggs will stop. How is he an 'absolute twat'? A few of the other guys have already said it was taken out of context. He didn't actually say 'I'm English'. By ‘we’ qualifying for the next tournament do you mean Wales or the apostle messageboard? I don’t want to take it out of context cause you didn’t actually say you were Welsh, you must have meant the apostle messageboard... Wales
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Post by richierich333 on Jun 29, 2018 12:33:27 GMT
This Giggs bashing is getting old now. Probably the same people who did a ridiculous complete turnaround on Coleman.
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Jun 29, 2018 14:04:21 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Jun 29, 2018 14:04:21 GMT
He is boring to listen too and has now opened up a can of worms. He sounds as English as the rest of them on the panel
Try concentrating on the Welsh job Giggs
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Jun 29, 2018 15:24:55 GMT
Post by iot on Jun 29, 2018 15:24:55 GMT
This was inevitable with his reputation rightly or wrongly for not caring that much about Wales over the years. I don't completely buy the 'he was speaking from a coaching perspective' line, deep down I think he has a really close affinity to England. That's fair enough seeing as he's spent almost his whole life there, but it does rile a bit to hear that from our manager. The FAW probably should have advised him not take up the position.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 29, 2018 15:32:16 GMT
This was inevitable with his reputation rightly or wrongly for not caring that much about Wales over the years. I don't completely buy the 'he was speaking from a coaching perspective' line, deep down I think he has a really close affinity to England. That's fair enough seeing as he's spent almost his whole life there, but it does rile a bit to hear that from our manager. The FAW probably should have advised him not take up the position. What and turn down money for a doing a job. They pay him part time, hes making up the rest of the pay in other activities. I agree with one of the above posts. Giggs bashing is boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jun 29, 2018 15:45:58 GMT
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Post by cymro on Jun 29, 2018 15:45:58 GMT
If we qualify for the next tournament i bet all this hating on Giggs will stop. How is he an 'absolute twat'? A few of the other guys have already said it was taken out of context. He didn't actually say 'I'm English'. It is harder for him NOT to qualify for the Euros. Get us to a world cup, that is the task that all Welsh managers have failed to deliver on (drawing of lots aside!). If he gets us to Qatar 2022 as much as it will be an awful world cup in terms of logistics Giggs could arguably then claim to be above Coleman in the pantheon of Welsh managers. To be honest I doubt he'll even be Wales manager anymore by the end of 2020 if he gets us to the euros and we put in a decent showing (at least a last 16 spot).
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Jun 29, 2018 16:52:38 GMT
Post by dlwilliams on Jun 29, 2018 16:52:38 GMT
Can I just ask why is everyone so obsessed by this idea that Giggs has to meet the fans in their local clubs etc. ? People are being quite selective with their memory on this topic. I can't remember Coleman doing many meet and greets until after we qualified for the Euros, but it wasn't an issue before then. If Giggs doesn't feel comfortable doing it (he is a different personality to Coleman - less outgoing, even by his own admission), then so what? I couldn't care less. I care more about what happens on the pitch, not off it. I went to a Coleman meet and greet after the Bosnia home game. We’d just come off a narrow Andorra win and a 0-0 home draw, so to suggest he started doing them when things were going well is wrong. I find it strange that people are suggesting he’s in Russia to scout opponents. Wales have a team of analysts who will break down the games highlighting important stats, strengths, weaknesses, style of play, etc. Is he really sitting with the pundits taking tactical notes with Ian Wright and Lee Dixon breathing down his neck? He’s there in his job as a pundit, plain and simple, find one fault in one of the teams to get through your 3 minute segment at half time. I'm not saying he only started doing them when things were going well, merely that given he wasn't a universally popular appointment, there weren't the same sort of calls for Coleman to go around the country meeting fans. Yet Giggs is judged differently.
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Jun 29, 2018 17:36:19 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jun 29, 2018 17:36:19 GMT
I went to a Coleman meet and greet after the Bosnia home game. We’d just come off a narrow Andorra win and a 0-0 home draw, so to suggest he started doing them when things were going well is wrong. I find it strange that people are suggesting he’s in Russia to scout opponents. Wales have a team of analysts who will break down the games highlighting important stats, strengths, weaknesses, style of play, etc. Is he really sitting with the pundits taking tactical notes with Ian Wright and Lee Dixon breathing down his neck? He’s there in his job as a pundit, plain and simple, find one fault in one of the teams to get through your 3 minute segment at half time. I'm not saying he only started doing them when things were going well, merely that given he wasn't a universally popular appointment, there weren't the same sort of calls for Coleman to go around the country meeting fans. Yet Giggs is judged differently. I recall Coleman did one in Gol quite soon after getting the job? For me it was a continuation of what Speed started....
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Jun 29, 2018 20:10:43 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jun 29, 2018 20:10:43 GMT
This Giggs bashing is getting old now. Probably the same people who did a ridiculous complete turnaround on Coleman. I can remember a "Coleman Out" chant at Macedonia away. At that time it was obvious that he wasn't fully focused on the Wales job ("lost" passport anyone?). And I'm sure that many of them did a complete turnaround and they were entitled to when Coleman started to focus on the job. The people on this board that support Giggs regardless of what he does are "probably" the same people that never spent their hard earnt cash following Wales away when we were shit..... This was inevitable with his reputation rightly or wrongly for not caring that much about Wales over the years. I don't completely buy the 'he was speaking from a coaching perspective' line, deep down I think he has a really close affinity to England. That's fair enough seeing as he's spent almost his whole life there, but it does rile a bit to hear that from our manager. The FAW probably should have advised him not take up the position. What and turn down money for a doing a job. They pay him part time, hes making up the rest of the pay in other activities. I agree with one of the above posts. Giggs bashing is boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz He's on at least £500k a year! How much "rest of the pay" does he need??? There are plenty of other things that he could do which wouldn't impact his job as the Manager of the National Team. Cookie was occassionally a Premier League pundit on BeIN Sports. The other countries with the EPL TV broadcasting rights would bend over backwards to get Giggs as a panelist for a few weeks in January. Why does he even need to comtemplate doing pundit work for England? He should already know that they treat him as a Stooge. F**k it, do many ceremonial openings of 7/11's in Kowloon as you want. Just organise it for the 300 odds days in a year when our potential opponents aren't playing.
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Jun 29, 2018 20:11:43 GMT
Post by iot on Jun 29, 2018 20:11:43 GMT
This was inevitable with his reputation rightly or wrongly for not caring that much about Wales over the years. I don't completely buy the 'he was speaking from a coaching perspective' line, deep down I think he has a really close affinity to England. That's fair enough seeing as he's spent almost his whole life there, but it does rile a bit to hear that from our manager. The FAW probably should have advised him not take up the position. What and turn down money for a doing a job. They pay him part time, hes making up the rest of the pay in other activities. I agree with one of the above posts. Giggs bashing is boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Look at the state of some of the comments below this article: www.givemesport.com/1342953-ryan-giggs-made-a-huge-mistake-during-england-v-belgium-and-some-people-are-furiousYou're not in good company there!
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Jul 25, 2018 21:32:54 GMT
Post by rushlegend on Jul 25, 2018 21:32:54 GMT
Out of interest - if my stats are correct Giggs only scored one goal in Euro qualifiers at home - San Marino in 2007 the year he retired from international football.
Useless info i know - but thought that was incredible!!!
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Jul 26, 2018 10:27:11 GMT
Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 26, 2018 10:27:11 GMT
Out of interest - if my stats are correct Giggs only scored one goal in Euro qualifiers at home - San Marino in 2007 the year he retired from international football. Useless info i know - but thought that was incredible!!! That is incredible!
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Post by welshiron on Aug 4, 2018 16:28:11 GMT
Is Giggs our full time manager?
If so, why is he watching Salford instead of some of our players. I know he was at reading last night but surely he has his priorities wrong
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Aug 5, 2018 10:59:24 GMT
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Post by zenith on Aug 5, 2018 10:59:24 GMT
Players still yet to play for Wales under Giggs -
Ampadu, J Williams, Robson-Kanu, Ward, Taylor, Maxwell, Huws. Then the likes of T Roberts, G Edwards, James, Rodon etc.
I hope he’s got a close eye on all of their progressions.
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Aug 5, 2018 11:26:00 GMT
Post by manulike on Aug 5, 2018 11:26:00 GMT
Isn't our Ryan hiding behind the username "giggzy65" / gareth and keeping a close eye on our Forum? Yes. "Gareth"?
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Aug 6, 2018 9:55:06 GMT
Post by superunknown on Aug 6, 2018 9:55:06 GMT
Is Giggs our full time manager? If so, why is he watching Salford instead of some of our players. I know he was at reading last night but surely he has his priorities wrong I do think it's wrong if he's prioritising Salford over the Welsh team but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one and say that Salford v Orient was the early kick off. I'd like to think he then went to somewhere, potentially Sheffield United and had a gander there.
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Aug 6, 2018 10:33:48 GMT
Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 6, 2018 10:33:48 GMT
Is Giggs our full time manager? If so, why is he watching Salford instead of some of our players. I know he was at reading last night but surely he has his priorities wrong I do think it's wrong if he's prioritising Salford over the Welsh team but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one and say that Salford v Orient was the early kick off. I'd like to think he then went to somewhere, potentially Sheffield United and had a gander there.
I'm not.
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Post by georgetm1 on Aug 6, 2018 11:35:29 GMT
I found this video on Youtube about the tactics Giggs used against China. Makes me feel a bit better about his tactical knowledge and shows how he managed to get a 0-0 against Mexico. He seems to know what he is doing. www.youtube.com/watch?v=taqhhmJsqHM
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Post by pendragon on Aug 6, 2018 13:22:58 GMT
I think the Mexico game might have been a sort of "day trip" for the youngsters to help them earn some vital experience, which isn't a bad thing. I think a lot of teams will see Giggs as a bit of a rookie and underestimate his knowledge and experience - hopefully that could play into our hands.
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Post by hooky on Oct 16, 2018 21:27:52 GMT
You have to admire his bravery with playing so many youngsters
Not many managers would have done what he has.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:32:01 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 16, 2018 21:32:01 GMT
Fair play I’ve been one of his biggest critics but he’s getting results and getting youngsters involved. We just need a win against a big nation to put a stamp on it.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 16, 2018 21:40:23 GMT
Well myself and Storm(insert name) gave him credit in the Denmark defeat because he set up to win. Same tonight
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Post by iot on Oct 16, 2018 21:42:47 GMT
If he gets a win against Denmark then it will have been a terrific start. If we draw/lose, it will be the same pattern of being far more effective against poorer teams than Coleman was, but then the complete opposite against stronger teams.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 16, 2018 21:49:01 GMT
It's a results business and he's got the main target which was to not get relegated from this group with a game to spare.
Still not convinced in the way the team is playing and think we will struggle against better teams, but he's gone a big way towards qualifying for the Euros tonight by ensuring we're in the 2nd pot for the main draw. That is massive, it makes the difference between our main opposition for 2nd likely being someone like Denmark, or someone like Scotland.
Long way to go but the two wins v ROI are vital ones.
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Oct 16, 2018 22:00:05 GMT
Post by captaincabbages on Oct 16, 2018 22:00:05 GMT
It was always going to be a stiff test without our two best players but fair play to Giggs he was bold in his selection once again and got his just rewards. Now we need to see a performance against one of the better sides, starting with Denmark.
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Post by rushlegend on Oct 16, 2018 22:04:05 GMT
Forgive me for being slightly critical in what was a superb result with a lot of fresh youngsters but just thought with these young players like T Roberts/Brooks/Wilson/Lawrence we could have pressed them a lot better first half especially as they young fit players - gave far too much space to Duffy etc to knock balls across the park - Ian Rush was superb at this (first line of defence) harassing and putting defenders under pressure from the off - but apart from that hats off to Ryan - brave decisions and correct ones - these young lads will be bouncing tonight and the confidence they will get will bring further rewards i'm sure - also Chester & Ash were fantastic tonight - written off? - fair play you two!!!!
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Oct 16, 2018 22:11:59 GMT
Post by saints19 on Oct 16, 2018 22:11:59 GMT
Forgive me for being slightly critical in what was a superb result with a lot of fresh youngsters but just thought with these young players like T Roberts/Brooks/Wilson/Lawrence we could have pressed them a lot better first half especially as they young fit players - gave far too much space to Duffy etc to knock balls across the park - Ian Rush was superb at this (first line of defence) harassing and putting defenders under pressure from the off - but apart from that hats off to Ryan - brave decisions and correct ones - these young lads will be bouncing tonight and the confidence they will get will bring further rewards i'm sure - also Chester & Ash were fantastic tonight - written off? - fair play you two!!!! Personally, I thought we were excellent at pressing the defence, admittedly we did this more towards the end of the game though.
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