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Post by alarch on Oct 18, 2018 19:33:15 GMT
No excuse, 'diolch' isn't difficult to say. I've friends from all over the world who've had no issues with saying it. His Dutch assistant was singing the anthem, so why not Giggs? Missing the point, i am making an observation that everyone is different and some may be more self concious of sounding like a twat. And tbh you have kinda proved my point that if he gets it wrong he will be slate. I understand your concern, although I doubt very much if anyone who makes the attempt would be slated. In fact, I would bet that anyone attempting any criticism would be rightly slated on social media for doing so. Even if Giggs doesn't feel comfortable saying it, it wouldn't do any harm to include the odd diolch on social media comments. Quite a few of the non-Welsh-speaking squad members, such as Chris Gunter, do this already. Ultimately if people don't feel comfortable doing this then it's not that big a deal - but it shows emotional intelligence to make these small, but significant attempts to sustain that spirit of togetherness.
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 18, 2018 21:00:09 GMT
No excuse, 'diolch' isn't difficult to say. I've friends from all over the world who've had no issues with saying it. His Dutch assistant was singing the anthem, so why not Giggs? Missing the point, i am making an observation that everyone is different and some may be more self concious of sounding like a twat. And tbh you have kinda proved my point that if he gets it wrong he will be slate. I think it’d make someone seem more of a “twat” if you’re a Welshman associated with Wales all your life standing there silent when the Dutch guy, only associated with Wales for about 6 months, is belting out the anthem next to you. Didn’t see the interview but if someone gives you an invite to say one Welsh word for the fans watching when they’ve already switched to a language you’re more comfortable with is a huge slap in the face.
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Oct 19, 2018 12:23:37 GMT
Post by pendragon on Oct 19, 2018 12:23:37 GMT
Well myself and Storm(insert name) gave him credit in the Denmark defeat because he set up to win. Same tonight I stand by my assertion that I would rather see us play the Giggs way and try and get on the front foot. Although there may be a case for a rigid Coleman style when playing upper tier 1 nations such as Spain or Germany. I couldn't agree more. The rigid approach does have its uses as you rightly point out with regard to playing higher ranked teams, and also when defending a one-goal lead (as our team did towards the end of the game in Dublin).
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 19, 2018 13:43:15 GMT
As a non-Welsh speaking person who is a passionate advocate of the Welsh language I can understand both perspectives. Personally I probably have the ability to exchange pleasantries in Welsh, but it is definately a confidence issue that can hold you back. So in that sense I can understand someone feeling uncomfortable in attempting to do something they are not confident with. For me though, there no excuses for not singing the national anthem. It's so important that the use of our language is promoted as much as possible. O bydded i'r heniath barhau.
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Post by gareth on Oct 19, 2018 14:32:31 GMT
Isn't our Ryan hiding behind the username "giggzy65" / gareth and keeping a close eye on our Forum? Yes. "Gareth"? Haha I've just seen this. Sorry, i'm not Ryan - I live in Llandrindod Wells and mediocre at football.....at best!
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Oct 19, 2018 19:45:23 GMT
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 19, 2018 19:45:23 GMT
I can speak a bit of Welsh learnt it from my dad and my grandparents it certainly is not hard to say diolch either .
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 19, 2018 20:37:00 GMT
I can speak a bit of Welsh learnt it from my dad and my grandparents it certainly is not hard to say diolch either . agree bud, it would be a gesture.. but I always think Giggs looks nervous doing interviews for wales
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Oct 19, 2018 20:59:48 GMT
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 19, 2018 20:59:48 GMT
I can speak a bit of Welsh learnt it from my dad and my grandparents it certainly is not hard to say diolch either . agree bud, it would be a gesture.. but I always think Giggs looks nervous doing interviews for wales Agree bro, he looks uncomfortable doing tv interviews maybe he is shy? Im sure he will get better at this as he goes on in the managerial role.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 19, 2018 21:05:48 GMT
agree bud, it would be a gesture.. but I always think Giggs looks nervous doing interviews for wales Agree bro, he looks uncomfortable doing tv interviews maybe he is shy? Im sure he will get better at this as he goes on in the managerial role. plus there is a lot who are watching for that word slip that he might mention England man united etc then it will be twitter overdrive lol
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Post by quetzal on Oct 27, 2018 1:06:52 GMT
After reading an headline that Cantona can’t watch United because it’s boring, the thought came into my head that Giggs has set out to play attractive football with Wales because he wants to catch the eye of United. I personally don’t think it’s a bad thing.
Imagine the scenario that Wales qualify for Euros and play attractive football like we saw against Ireland at home and China and we were set up to do in Denmark but it didn’t go to plan. Imagine all this is just an audition for the United job. Should we be afraid?
I say this as someone who never liked United in my life. I think we should embrace it, enjoy good football, enjoy the ride and what will be will be. He might even be blooding the youth with a different agenda to what we are thinking. Busby Babes, Fergie’s Fledglings. The whole bloody thing could be a charm offensive. Like i said if we’re successful I don’t give a damn!!!
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Oct 27, 2018 4:22:43 GMT
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 27, 2018 4:22:43 GMT
No one is will argue that it's giggys ambition to take over at United but now will not be right for him and I would be surprised if he would walk out so early on in his management career or United take a chance on him. If United do change it will be zidane. Like giggs Gerard and Frank lampard the will all have ambitions to go back to they clubs they spent life playing for to manage. But all work in progress and FL has few seasons of success at Derby with Harry and Tom yet😉
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Oct 27, 2018 10:09:19 GMT
Post by robin1864 on Oct 27, 2018 10:09:19 GMT
Obviously he'll ditch us as soon as United offer him something, he needs to learn how to defend if he wants to survive the PL though.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 27, 2018 10:11:08 GMT
Can we please just get off his back?
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 27, 2018 10:13:41 GMT
If Giggs gets the United job then it means he will have been a success, I'll settle for that.
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Oct 27, 2018 10:42:04 GMT
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Post by quetzal on Oct 27, 2018 10:42:04 GMT
Can we please just get off his back? Nobody is on anybody’s back here. Just saying if we’re a success under Giggs embrace it, enjoy it but don’t be surprised when he scoots off to United.
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Oct 27, 2018 10:54:29 GMT
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 27, 2018 10:54:29 GMT
Can we please just get off his back? He is doing well so far..
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Post by cymro on Oct 27, 2018 12:02:40 GMT
Ill give him enough credit to say i dont think he'll leave before 2020. I've accepted that Giggs will almost definitely be leaving if he gets us to the euros and we put in a good showing (say a quarter final appearance). But in the meantime we all want the same thing which is for Wales to be successful so I'm fully behind him for that reason.
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Oct 27, 2018 12:34:50 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Oct 27, 2018 12:34:50 GMT
He will leave if ever man Utd come calling even if that is next week
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Post by cymro on Oct 27, 2018 12:38:08 GMT
He will leave if ever man Utd come calling even if that is next week They wouldn't though. Not until he proves himself at a top level I.e. a major tournament.
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Post by pendragon on Oct 27, 2018 12:47:37 GMT
Man Utd will not come calling anytime soon - neither will any other PL team, not after a handful of mixed results.
He is still a rookie and the Premier League is a business-oriented game that relies on results to keep the profits rolling.
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Oct 27, 2018 12:49:49 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Oct 27, 2018 12:49:49 GMT
You never know, couple of bad results for Jose and if Zidane says no, then they might go for Giggs.
Personally dont think so but not impossible
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Oct 27, 2018 13:32:16 GMT
Post by pendragon on Oct 27, 2018 13:32:16 GMT
You never know, couple of bad results for Jose and if Zidane says no, then they might go for Giggs. Personally dont think so but not impossible There are at least a dozen other managers they would consider before Giggs even if Zidane said no. Contè, Wenger, Lopetegui... heck even Martin O'Neill would probably get a sniff before Giggs would. Long-term he will be a consideration if he gets us into League A and the Euros or the next World Cup.
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Oct 27, 2018 14:26:00 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Oct 27, 2018 14:26:00 GMT
If Giggs gets the United job then it means he will have been a success, I'll settle for that. I see that a LOSE / LOSE situation. If he is mildly successful he will be off with the first decent offer that comes his way, leaving us to pick up the pieces of all the turmoil that a change of manager and management team brings. If he isn't successful we are lumbered with the most expensive Manager in Welsh international football history.
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Post by manulike on Oct 27, 2018 14:56:55 GMT
Maybe. One day. But not before he lifts the World Cup in the Qatari desert ;-)
#ONE.WALES.ONE.TEAM
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Oct 28, 2018 1:30:27 GMT
Post by saints19 on Oct 28, 2018 1:30:27 GMT
You never know, couple of bad results for Jose and if Zidane says no, then they might go for Giggs. Personally dont think so but not impossible After seven games and three competitive games? If it were to happen, it would be interim until the end of the season with the chance to get the job full time if he nails it following Mourinho getting sacked. But I think there's more chance of a flying pig scoring the winner next month.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 12:43:08 GMT
Why did he leave Old Trafford? I assume Morono didn’t want him as part of the backroom team?
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 28, 2018 13:29:51 GMT
Why did he leave Old Trafford? I assume Morono didn’t want him as part of the backroom team? was it because he wanted to take over full time? either way its was a poison chalice after Fergie left. let giggs do what he is here to do and firstly get us to the euros, until he does that united wont be knocking on his door.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 29, 2018 22:44:05 GMT
Why did he leave Old Trafford? I assume Morono didn’t want him as part of the backroom team? was it because he wanted to take over full time? either way its was a poison chalice after Fergie left. let giggs do what he is here to do and firstly get us to the euros, until he does that united wont be knocking on his door. There is no way United will come looking for Giggs unless he is a success. You might get a Blackburn or a Fulham approach. You would like to think Giggsy has learnt something from Coleman. Be careful who you choose
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Oct 29, 2018 23:36:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 23:36:42 GMT
Coleman isn’t a fair comparison as he was vastly more experienced. The likes of Gerrard and Lampard haven’t taken over at Arsenal or Chelsea.
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Oct 30, 2018 0:37:13 GMT
Post by saints19 on Oct 30, 2018 0:37:13 GMT
I think the point being made was that Coleman left us for Sunderland which he's probably regretting having done now.
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