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Mar 14, 2019 20:23:34 GMT
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Mar 14, 2019 20:23:34 GMT
If we qualify this thread will be embarrassing I understand Giggs was not everybody's choice but this beyond belief how we want to put our manager down or look to put the boot in. Talking to mates at the fame last week and they stood there jaws dropped when I explained this thread.
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Mar 14, 2019 20:24:25 GMT
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Mar 14, 2019 20:24:25 GMT
If we qualify I doubt many will be bothered about a thread on a message board. You can always remind us at the time though. When we qualify you mean 😉😁
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 14, 2019 20:27:26 GMT
It had better be when with the quality in the squad and being second seeds.
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Mar 14, 2019 21:09:10 GMT
Post by iot on Mar 14, 2019 21:09:10 GMT
Especially for zenith - EJFOF got 30' minutes interview with Ryan, online since yesterday. Not a single question about Gareth Southgate or Declan Rice ;-) Interesting to hear how impressed he is with Matt Smith and Woody ;-) www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05cmk38 Yes I listened in the car last night. Thought he spoke well and interesting to hear his thoughts on Ramsey’s position. Will favour him in a 10 or a box to box role. Definitely not in that holding position with Allen again 😂 Just heard his interview today and have to agree, he had a lot of good things to say and came across as being far more thoughtful than I'd expected. It came across that he's had a clear strategy in place - he hasn't been capping players willy nilly and giving numerous youngster opportunities just for the sake of it, he's done it to improve his options because he puts much of Wales' failures in the past down to the small player base. He thinks we lost to russia in the second leg for euro 2004 because we were so knackered after the first having to rely on 12-13 players. With all the double-headers in international football within 3-4 days, I think it's actually a really good point and is a much bigger factor than I've realised up to now. I'm sure we went for years without winning both games in a double header, which backs up Giggs' thinking.
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Mar 14, 2019 21:11:16 GMT
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 14, 2019 21:11:16 GMT
Make sure to post every inhalation and exhalation and general breathing patterns of giggs tomorrow. It's really relevant and helpful to the qualification campaign. Keep up the good work you're doing swell.
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Mar 14, 2019 21:13:42 GMT
Post by CrackityJones on Mar 14, 2019 21:13:42 GMT
Yes I listened in the car last night. Thought he spoke well and interesting to hear his thoughts on Ramsey’s position. Will favour him in a 10 or a box to box role. Definitely not in that holding position with Allen again 😂 Just heard his interview today and have to agree, he had a lot of good things to say and came across as being far more thoughtful than I'd expected. It came across that he's had a clear strategy in place - he hasn't been capping players willy nilly and giving numerous youngster opportunities just for the sake of it, he's done it to improve his options because he puts much of Wales' failures in the past down to the small player base. He thinks we lost to russia in the second leg for euro 2004 because we were so knackered after the first having to rely on 12-13 players. With all the double-headers in international football within 3-4 days, I think it's actually a really good point and is a much bigger factor than I've realised up to now. I'm sure we went for years without winning both games in a double header, which backs up Giggs' thinking. That was my main concern after the Albania game, we didnt seem to have any direction and were tactively naive throughout the autumn but I was willing to give Giggs the benefit of the doubt. He talked a good game in the interview, which allayed some of my fears. Lets see how he gets on in practice next Sunday.
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Post by gwernybwch on Mar 14, 2019 21:37:19 GMT
If we qualify this thread will be embarrassing If Giggs qualifies the thread will pretty much go along the lines of - see, I told you so. A international Manager doesn't need to be watching his players week in, week out. He knows what they can do. It doesn't matter if he has other outside interests, all that matters is that we qualify. I said it all along. You can't play for one of the best Managers in the World and not learn something. For heavens sake he managed one of the biggest clubs in the world. All his connections meant for something. We got to train at one of the best facilities in the World. His name means that we are now known in places like South Africa, Vietnam, Hong Kong (shopping centres) The response will be - Lucky, lucky Giggs. Without having the most committed Assistant Manager any country ever has, we would have been stuffed. He sure was lucky to have arguably the best squad of players that we have ever seen and probably the weakest group we have ever been put in. Even if we have qualified, he's still a self-obsessed, self-serving individual who as done absolutely nothing else for Welsh football than get us through qualification. If Giggs doesn't qualify the thread will pretty much go along the lines of - See I told you so. International football is so competitive, that you have to be 100% committed or you are doomed to fail. It is quite obvious that his outside interests had an impact. You can't be spending your Saturdays in Salford and not have an impact on how we perform. I said it all along. He was a dullard. Why we thought that a bloke whose only coaching experience is putting the bollards at Old Trafford to be a great coach is beyond me We are now straddled with playing off his £500k a year contract which going to have an impact on Welsh football for years to come The response will be - He was doomed to fail. No Manager is going to excel when there a fans snipping away at him, hoping that he fails. HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING?
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Mar 14, 2019 22:54:57 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 14, 2019 22:54:57 GMT
If we qualify this thread will be embarrassing I understand Giggs was not everybody's choice but this beyond belief how we want to put our manager down or look to put the boot in. Talking to mates at the fame last week and they stood there jaws dropped when I explained this thread. Fair enough, my jaw dropped when I realised he’s done more for South African and Vietnamese football since he became Wales manager than he has Wales. Out of context it would look bad on the fans. I personally think it’s justified. If he wants the fans off his back he could focus on Wales, radical opinion I know.
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Mar 14, 2019 23:03:12 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 14, 2019 23:03:12 GMT
Make sure to post every inhalation and exhalation and general breathing patterns of giggs tomorrow. It's really relevant and helpful to the qualification campaign. Keep up the good work you're doing swell. Scouting our players would be really relevant and helpful to the qualification campaign, can you update us when he plans on starting that.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Mar 15, 2019 12:11:45 GMT
Perhaps we need to start a new thread entitled 'GIGGS WATCH'.
It's a documentary type of thread, featuring and following the daily movements and habits of a species rarely seen in Wales, its natural environment being mainly in the North West of England where it feels most comfortable.
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Mar 15, 2019 18:54:42 GMT
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Post by gwernybwch on Mar 16, 2019 8:12:42 GMT
Mr Trefor Jones, Ysgol y Creuddyn headteacher, said: "The reaction of the young people when Ryan Giggs walked into the room was a picture of surprise and delight - it was a great sight to see.”
Noa Williams, year 10 pupil, said: "It was a privilege to meet Ryan Giggs and Osian Roberts at our school. I have so much respect for them, especially as I view Ryan Giggs as one of the best players ever to play for Wales.”
Cerys Vick, year 13 and Platinum Young Ambassador for School Sport Wales, said: “It was an exciting opportunity to ask Ryan Giggs the questions that interest us and inspiring for many of the aspiring football players to hear his stories and tips."If this is the response to a quick visit to a school straight the press conference, imagine, just imagine what impact it would have on Welsh football if he did this in Welsh schools and junior football teams on a regular basis???
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Post by gwernybwch on Mar 16, 2019 8:16:50 GMT
Thought that I would share with the WhatsApp from a few days ago -
Jonathan: We need to work out how we are going to get from North Wales back to Cardiff for the qualifier. Any ideas? Osian: A bit out of our way, but why don't we travel down the A470? It would show a bit of solidarity with us Gogs that have tirelessly made the trip over the years. Osian: We can even stop off at The Little Chef, Llanelwedd on the way down. It has been has been almost a point of pilgrimage over the years! Osian: Maybe even do a bit of PR work, like a brief coaching session with children in Builth. Jonathan: Great idea there Osian. Stuivenburg: Builth? How do you pronounce it? Osian: Builth as in rhyming with "FILTH" and "MILF" Ryan: Something with FILTHY MILF's? I'm deffo interested! Ryan: Sorry just read the entire thread now. My bad! Ryan: The thing is I'm all for stopping off and spending time with Welsh kids but I'm worried that Vokes might be tempted by a Whopper XL at the Burger King. Strudwick: Good point Ryan. I don’t want the fitness schedules to be compromised. Ryan: Fly from Manchester airport is the best thing. It is where we will be based anyway. I'll arrange transfers from Hotel Football. Stuivenberg: I agree. Strudwick: And me. Osian: Oh well, it was just an idea. Just an idea.
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Mar 16, 2019 8:51:09 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 16, 2019 8:51:09 GMT
Mr Trefor Jones, Ysgol y Creuddyn headteacher, said: "The reaction of the young people when Ryan Giggs walked into the room was a picture of surprise and delight - it was a great sight to see.”
Noa Williams, year 10 pupil, said: "It was a privilege to meet Ryan Giggs and Osian Roberts at our school. I have so much respect for them, especially as I view Ryan Giggs as one of the best players ever to play for Wales.”
Cerys Vick, year 13 and Platinum Young Ambassador for School Sport Wales, said: “It was an exciting opportunity to ask Ryan Giggs the questions that interest us and inspiring for many of the aspiring football players to hear his stories and tips."If this is the response to a quick visit to a school straight the press conference, imagine, just imagine what impact it would have on Welsh football if he did this in Welsh schools and junior football teams on a regular basis??? Introduced as Wales manager Ryan Giggs too. That’ll have a huge impact on the profile of the National team. We’re now huge in South Africa, Vietnam and Penrhyn Bay!
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Post by iantov on Mar 16, 2019 18:21:59 GMT
The thread is..It's Giggs - Let's get 100% behind him. Constructive criticism is fine, the odd wise crack, fine.. otherwise, for all the doomsayers and negheads on here, please go start a 'It's Giggs, stick the knife in..' / Giggs the philanderer / Giggs is a Manc / etc thread instead. It's getting tiresome now boys...give the guy a meaningful, competitive chance first.
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Post by gwernybwch on Mar 18, 2019 19:21:28 GMT
A friend of mines girlfriends Auntie works at a hotel in Salford, England. They heard this conversation as the Welsh squad was checking in today - Receptionist: Welcome to Hotel Football. Osian: I'd like to check-in please. Receptionist: Certainly Sir. Who is the booking under? Osian: Cymdeithas Bêl-droed Cymru Receptionist: Sorry sir. I speak English, Spanish and German. I'm afraid I didn't understand your foreign language. Osian: [mutters under breath] Try Football Association of Wales then. Receptionist: I'm sorry Sir. I can't seem to find a booking under that name either. Could it possibly be under another name? Osian: Try R. Giggs then. Receptionist: That's it. I've found it now. Oh, I see that you have been signed up for the full price package. Osian: We have? Receptionist: You have indeed. This package allows you a free tour of Old Trafford. Osian: I've been there before thanks. For England v Wales. Receptionist: It is the most welcoming of stadiums isn't it? Osian: It wasn't in October 2004. The English fans called us "Sheep Shagging Bastards" then. Receptionist: I'm sorry to hear that Sir. Have you stayed here before? Osian: No never. Receptionist: Oh, my apologies. It seems that you have been signed up for the loyalty scheme. Maybe the person that made the booking is planning that your group will stay here on many occasions? Henessey: [stood at the back of the queue] Hurry Up! Ramsey: Wayne! WHAT - THE - FUCK !!!! Henessey: What? Ramsey: It looks like you are doing a Nazi salute. Henessey: What you mean? I was putting my hand up to attract Osian's attention. I put my hand across my mouth so that my voice would carry. Receptionist: Here is your room card Mr. Roberts. It is on the 10th floor. Room number 66. Osian: I don't suppose that I can have a room on the 12th floor. Number 82? Receptionist: 1282? Sorry I have already allocated you a room. Osian: 1066. Oh FFS. [Osian walks to the lift] Receptionist: Ah, Senor Bale. Bienvenido a Hotel Football. Bale: What? Oh, Española. Uno room for dos persons please. Err, I mean gracias. Fuck, I meant por favor. Receptionist: I would like to make you aware of our late night Restaurant, it does a splendid range of Tapas. Bale: Thanks for the offer but I don't eat late.
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Mar 18, 2019 22:16:10 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 18, 2019 22:16:10 GMT
The thread is..It's Giggs - Let's get 100% behind him. Constructive criticism is fine, the odd wise crack, fine.. otherwise, for all the doomsayers and negheads on here, please go start a 'It's Giggs, stick the knife in..' / Giggs the philanderer / Giggs is a Manc / etc thread instead. It's getting tiresome now boys...give the guy a meaningful, competitive chance first. Isn’t the title of the thread one persons opinion and it’s being debated on? I see this as the Ryan Giggs thread now.
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Post by alarch on Mar 18, 2019 23:32:33 GMT
Just got round to listening to the podcast. Good to hear him pretty much acknowledge that playing Ramsey as a deep-lying midfielder isn't a great idea, and stating (the obvious) that he prefers getting forward. He talked of him being suited to the number 10 role (obviously), but also said he might suit a dual 8 role. I assume he means a pair of 8s somewhat in advance of a central holding midfielder - in a 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3. If that is what he has in mind then the question is - who would play the anchor role? This could be perfect for Amapadu long-term, with his blend of defensive nous and authority in possession, a Busquets in the making dare I say. But it's a big ask for him right now, especially given his lack of game time. It would also be too big an ask for Smith right now, despite his game time. Allen would be the obvious candidate for now - but who would join Ramsey as the other 8? Not a particularly suitable role for either Ampadu or Smith.
All this leads me to think that Giggs may kick off the campaign with a 4-2-3-1, with either Smith or Ampadu alongside Allen, with Ramsey in the number 10 role and Bale, Brooks and Wilson up front. Somewhat conservative - but a very solid formation defensively, with plenty of quality up front. This would also tally with Giggs saying that there is only one position he's undecided on, and it a decision between two players. He stressed the importance of playing regularly, and the need for competition for places, with no player assured of a starting position. So I've got a feeling he'll go for Smith ahead of Ampadu. This is how I see us lining up (I'd be astonished if any of the defensive positions are different):
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Mar 19, 2019 0:02:13 GMT
Post by manulike on Mar 19, 2019 0:02:13 GMT
Just got round to listening to the podcast. Good to hear him pretty much acknowledge that playing Ramsey as a deep-lying midfielder isn't a great idea, and stating (the obvious) that he prefers getting forward. He talked of him being suited to the number 10 role (obviously), but also said he might suit a dual 8 role. I assume he means a pair of 8s somewhat in advance of a central holding midfielder - in a 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3. If that is what he has in mind then the question is - who would play the anchor role? This could be perfect for Amapadu long-term, with his blend of defensive nous and authority in possession, a Busquets in the making dare I say. But it's a big ask for him right now, especially given his lack of game time. It would also be too big an ask for Smith right now, despite his game time. Allen would be the obvious candidate for now - but who would join Ramsey as the other 8? Not a particularly suitable role for either Ampadu or Smith. All this leads me to think that Giggs may kick off the campaign with a 4-2-3-1, with either Smith or Ampadu alongside Allen, with Ramsey in the number 10 role and Bale, Brooks and Wilson up front. Somewhat conservative - but a very solid formation defensively, with plenty of quality up front. This would also tally with Giggs saying that there is only one position he's undecided on, and it a decision between two players. He stressed the importance of playing regularly, and the need for competition for places, with no player assured of a starting position. So I've got a feeling he'll go for Smith ahead of Ampadu. This is how I see us lining up (I'd be astonished if any of the defensive positions are different): ------------Hennessey Roberts--Mepham---Williams--Davies -----------Smith---Allen -------------Ramsey Brooks--------Bale---------Wilson Nail. Head. I like it ;-)
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Mar 19, 2019 0:08:55 GMT
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Mar 19, 2019 0:08:55 GMT
Just got round to listening to the podcast. Good to hear him pretty much acknowledge that playing Ramsey as a deep-lying midfielder isn't a great idea, and stating (the obvious) that he prefers getting forward. He talked of him being suited to the number 10 role (obviously), but also said he might suit a dual 8 role. I assume he means a pair of 8s somewhat in advance of a central holding midfielder - in a 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3. If that is what he has in mind then the question is - who would play the anchor role? This could be perfect for Amapadu long-term, with his blend of defensive nous and authority in possession, a Busquets in the making dare I say. But it's a big ask for him right now, especially given his lack of game time. It would also be too big an ask for Smith right now, despite his game time. Allen would be the obvious candidate for now - but who would join Ramsey as the other 8? Not a particularly suitable role for either Ampadu or Smith. All this leads me to think that Giggs may kick off the campaign with a 4-2-3-1, with either Smith or Ampadu alongside Allen, with Ramsey in the number 10 role and Bale, Brooks and Wilson up front. Somewhat conservative - but a very solid formation defensively, with plenty of quality up front. This would also tally with Giggs saying that there is only one position he's undecided on, and it a decision between two players. He stressed the importance of playing regularly, and the need for competition for places, with no player assured of a starting position. So I've got a feeling he'll go for Smith ahead of Ampadu. This is how I see us lining up (I'd be astonished if any of the defensive positions are different): ------------Hennessey Roberts--Mepham---Williams--Davies -----------Smith---Allen -------------Ramsey Brooks--------Bale---------Wilson Nail. Head. I like it ;-) Agree.. ^^^
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Mar 19, 2019 0:24:47 GMT
Post by alarch on Mar 19, 2019 0:24:47 GMT
If what Giggs is saying about no player being assured of a starting place is true then James could play himself into a starting position ahead of Wilson if he performs against T & T as he has for Swansea of late.
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Mar 19, 2019 6:51:26 GMT
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Mar 19, 2019 6:51:26 GMT
If what Giggs is saying about no player being assured of a starting place is true then James could play himself into a starting position ahead of Wilson if he performs against T & T as he has for Swansea of late. Wilson form has dipped but that's more to do with whole team than him. Wilson to start unless he is carrying a knock. Ahead of Lawrence definitely
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Mar 19, 2019 6:52:11 GMT
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Post by massivefloodlights on Mar 19, 2019 6:52:11 GMT
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Post by alarch on Mar 19, 2019 10:30:47 GMT
Reflecting further on Giggs' interview and how he's likely to take us forward got me thinking about how we went about things in the previous Euro campaign. I wasn't the only one who couldn't see sense in going with 5 at the back away to Andorra, given that Gunter and Taylor were very unfamiliar with the wing back roles, and I was concerned about sacrificing attacking potency. As it happened those concerns were at least partly justified, as we were heavily dependant on Bale's individual brilliance to rescue us in that game in particular, but also throughout the campaign (most notably Cyprus away). But what I, and I think many others, failed to appreciate at first was the benefit of moving to a more solid defensive platform provided by the wing-back system, especially when it morphed from 3-5-2 to 3-4-2-1 in the game out in Haifa. To only concede in one game out of 6 against our top 3 competitors in the group says it all. With the benefit of hindsight it makes sense that Coleman took us in that direction - especially considering how we were so poor defensively in the previous World Cup campaign.
If I have a concern about Giggs based on our games to date and his comments in the podcast it's that he may put too much emphasis on the attacking side of things, and we end up with an unbalanced approach. That was certainly the case in both Denmark games, where we struggled to provide a platform for our flair players. It sounds that Giggs may have learnt his lesson regarding Ramsey playing deep in a double-pivot - but unless he modifies his thinking in general there's a danger he'll substitute one gung-ho decision for another.
Our success in the Euros last time, and Denmark's achievements with modest resources, shows the virtues of adopting a defensively solid conservative game plan. Why take big risks needlessly if you have the resources to win by playing it safe? For me a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go - as it places round pegs in round holes (apart from the lack of a number 9 - but this is a problem whatever the formation), especially in front of the back four. A 4-3-3 setup has a lot to commend it, as a Plan B in particular, but it places a lot of responsibility on the holding mid, and will potentially unbalance the team at this point in time.
I'm nervous going into this campaign - because it could so easily go either way. We could play brilliant attacking football as we managed against China and ROI at home - or we could be undone by an unbalanced approach that fails to deliver a stable platform for our flair players to play off. The moral of the last Euro campaign was better safe than sorry. Will Giggs heed that lesson?
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Post by 1gwaunview on Mar 19, 2019 11:19:59 GMT
Reflecting further on Giggs' interview and how he's likely to take us forward got me thinking about how we went about things in the previous Euro campaign. I wasn't the only one who couldn't see sense in going with 5 at the back away to Andorra, given that Gunter and Taylor were very unfamiliar with the wing back roles, and I was concerned about sacrificing attacking potency. As it happened those concerns were at least partly justified, as we were heavily dependant on Bale's individual brilliance to rescue us in that game in particular, but also throughout the campaign (most notably Cyprus away). But what I, and I think many others, failed to appreciate at first was the benefit of moving to a more solid defensive platform provided by the wing-back system, especially when it morphed from 3-5-2 to 3-4-2-1 in the game out in Haifa. To only concede in one game out of 6 against our top 3 competitors in the group says it all. With the benefit of hindsight it makes sense that Coleman took us in that direction - especially considering how we were so poor defensively in the previous World Cup campaign. If I have a concern about Giggs based on our games to date and his comments in the podcast it's that he may put too much emphasis on the attacking side of things, and we end up with an unbalanced approach. That was certainly the case in both Denmark games, where we struggled to provide a platform for our flair players. It sounds that Giggs may have learnt his lesson regarding Ramsey playing deep in a double-pivot - but unless he modifies his thinking in general there's a danger he'll substitute one gung-ho decision for another. Our success in the Euros last time, and Denmark's achievements with modest resources, shows the virtues of adopting a defensively solid conservative game plan. Why take big risks needlessly if you have the resources to win by playing it safe? For me a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go - as it places round pegs in round holes (apart from the lack of a number 9 - but this is a problem whatever the formation), especially in front of the back four. A 4-3-3 setup has a lot to commend it, as a Plan B in particular, but it places a lot of responsibility on the holding mid, and will potentially unbalance the team at this point in time. I'm nervous going into this campaign - because it could so easily go either way. We could play brilliant attacking football as we managed against China and ROI at home - or we could be undone by an unbalanced approach that fails to deliver a stable platform for our flair players to play off. The moral of the last Euro campaign was better safe than sorry. Will Giggs heed that lesson? Good post, let's hope Giggs has learnt the lessons of the Nations League if he's had the time.
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Mar 19, 2019 11:37:18 GMT
Post by cadno on Mar 19, 2019 11:37:18 GMT
Reflecting further on Giggs' interview and how he's likely to take us forward got me thinking about how we went about things in the previous Euro campaign. I wasn't the only one who couldn't see sense in going with 5 at the back away to Andorra, given that Gunter and Taylor were very unfamiliar with the wing back roles, and I was concerned about sacrificing attacking potency. As it happened those concerns were at least partly justified, as we were heavily dependant on Bale's individual brilliance to rescue us in that game in particular, but also throughout the campaign (most notably Cyprus away). But what I, and I think many others, failed to appreciate at first was the benefit of moving to a more solid defensive platform provided by the wing-back system, especially when it morphed from 3-5-2 to 3-4-2-1 in the game out in Haifa. To only concede in one game out of 6 against our top 3 competitors in the group says it all. With the benefit of hindsight it makes sense that Coleman took us in that direction - especially considering how we were so poor defensively in the previous World Cup campaign. If I have a concern about Giggs based on our games to date and his comments in the podcast it's that he may put too much emphasis on the attacking side of things, and we end up with an unbalanced approach. That was certainly the case in both Denmark games, where we struggled to provide a platform for our flair players. It sounds that Giggs may have learnt his lesson regarding Ramsey playing deep in a double-pivot - but unless he modifies his thinking in general there's a danger he'll substitute one gung-ho decision for another. Our success in the Euros last time, and Denmark's achievements with modest resources, shows the virtues of adopting a defensively solid conservative game plan. Why take big risks needlessly if you have the resources to win by playing it safe? For me a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go - as it places round pegs in round holes (apart from the lack of a number 9 - but this is a problem whatever the formation), especially in front of the back four. A 4-3-3 setup has a lot to commend it, as a Plan B in particular, but it places a lot of responsibility on the holding mid, and will potentially unbalance the team at this point in time. I'm nervous going into this campaign - because it could so easily go either way. We could play brilliant attacking football as we managed against China and ROI at home - or we could be undone by an unbalanced approach that fails to deliver a stable platform for our flair players to play off. The moral of the last Euro campaign was better safe than sorry. Will Giggs heed that lesson? I think a 3-4-3 or 3-1-4-2 formation similar to what Italy successfully played at Euro 2012 could work really well, but maybe it's a bit late to risk a formation like this, a solid 4-2-3-1 makes more sense. I share your sense of nervousness going into this campaign, but I'm also quite excited for the prospect of performances like vs ROI at home...... IF we manage to get off to a good start vs Slovakia, we shouldn't get too carried away, we have two difficult away games in June, Giggs will need to approach the Croatia game slightly more defensively minded.
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Post by gwernybwch on Mar 19, 2019 19:08:12 GMT
All this leads me to think that Giggs may kick off the campaign with a 4-2-3-1, with either Smith or Ampadu alongside Allen, with Ramsey in the number 10 role and Bale, Brooks and Wilson up front. S omewhat conservative - but a very solid formation defensively, with plenty of quality up front. This would also tally with Giggs saying that there is only one position he's undecided on, and it a decision between two players. He stressed the importance of playing regularly, and the need for competition for places, with no player assured of a starting position. So I've got a feeling he'll go for Smith ahead of Ampadu. This is how I see us lining up (I'd be astonished if any of the defensive positions are different): ------------Hennessey Roberts--Mepham---Williams--Davies -----------Smith---Allen -------------Ramsey Brooks--------Bale---------Wilson A somewhat conservative formation? I would have thought that is about as attacking as you can get in international football. That is pretty much the formation and line-up that I would start with (and it seems that it is getting a lot of love from other Apostles as well). Really think that we will blow them away with that formation. Even if they try to sit deep, I think that we will break them down at least once, following by Daniel James ripping them apart as a late sub. Back on topic; I have to say that I am much more at ease with Giggs since listening to the podcast. He does give the impression that he has some kind of plan and has a grasp of what has been going on.
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Mar 20, 2019 11:41:42 GMT
Post by texan on Mar 20, 2019 11:41:42 GMT
A somewhat conservative formation? I would have thought that is about as attacking as you can get in international football. Well, having two playing the anchor role is a defensive midfield setup as opposed to the preferable role of only having one there. I'd agree with that line-up, only asking Smith's starting position to gradually float upwards towards Ramsey depending on how we're doing/possession-wise.
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Mar 20, 2019 12:22:21 GMT
Post by iot on Mar 20, 2019 12:22:21 GMT
Ramsey's been playing superbly recently in a deeper midfield role, I think that would be the best course of action for slovakia. They're strength is in midfield, so having more bodies deeper in the middle will help us negate that and hopefully allow us to control proceedings.
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Mar 20, 2019 12:30:33 GMT
Post by dai on Mar 20, 2019 12:30:33 GMT
Giggs and staff were at the Wales - England C game last night.
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