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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 17, 2023 9:20:47 GMT
I'm sure people have the best of intentions, that's not the issue. I just find it presumptuous that people think they know better than Tom what he should do with his future.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 17, 2023 9:50:11 GMT
On reflection I didn't make enough allowance for how upsetting people found Tom's collapse. I apologise for any offence I caused.
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 17, 2023 10:52:52 GMT
On reflection I didn't make enough allowance for how upsetting people found Tom's collapse. I apologise for any offence I caused. I'm sure we all understand its a time of heightened emotions for Wales fans. Obviously we crossed words but no offence taken on my part. In terms of Lockyer when he first came through I didn't really rate him. Since he's been promoted to a Premier League Captain and really showed what I knew. Against Turkey he was amazing and I wanted him to replace Mepham and be our main CB against Finland. I've got to say though coming back from the Playoff final, as with Eriksson I though lucky guy, fair play he's recovered and beaten his experience playing again. From here is where our opinions will differ so I won't go there. I know we will all have his best interests in our hearts though. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 17, 2023 11:43:25 GMT
Collapsing due to heart problems twice in 6 months is not good. I don't think there's any reasonable way he can continue, the risk is too high and will be hanging over his and his clubs head. Luckily he's been okay after both occasions but if something happened to him again and he didn't survive the club would come under serious fire, and rightly so
He's been class and coming into his prime, and he's got such a good story. That just makes this all so unfortunate. Hope he can continue in football in some form, perhaps as a coach
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 17, 2023 12:04:16 GMT
Lockyer's collapse in the playoff final was caused by atrial fibrillation it has been reported, rather than cardiac arrest, as has been reported for yesterday's incident. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65822231It's not clear what the operation he had following the atrial fibrillation incident involved, but on the face of it it didn't involve the fitting of a defibrillator implant, as Cristian Eriksen received: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57508250 So this may be an option for Lockyer. If it is then I'm sure he'll think long and hard whether getting the implant and continuing his football career is a risk worth taking. |
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 17, 2023 15:58:36 GMT
Lockyer's collapse in the playoff final was caused by atrial fibrillation it has been reported, rather than cardiac arrest, as has been reported for yesterday's incident. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65822231It's not clear what the operation he had following the atrial fibrillation incident involved, but on the face of it it didn't involve the fitting of a defibrillator implant, as Cristian Eriksen received: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57508250 So this may be an option for Lockyer. If it is then I'm sure he'll think long and hard whether getting the implant and continuing his football career is a risk worth taking. Could be an option. I guess if it's diagnosed and treated he could be in a better position then many who may need one but hasn't been discovered. I hope he makes the correct decision either way. Would hate to see anything happen to him again. Surely he's got a job waiting for him at Luton as a coach. He could do a lot to help clubs raise awareness for the equipment they need to help others who might need similar on field treatment. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 18, 2023 9:28:29 GMT
Lockyer's collapse in the playoff final was caused by atrial fibrillation it has been reported, rather than cardiac arrest, as has been reported for yesterday's incident. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65822231It's not clear what the operation he had following the atrial fibrillation incident involved, but on the face of it it didn't involve the fitting of a defibrillator implant, as Cristian Eriksen received: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57508250 So this may be an option for Lockyer. If it is then I'm sure he'll think long and hard whether getting the implant and continuing his football career is a risk worth taking. That's a fair point, and I'm not knowledgable enough to say whether this is likely to help. For Eriksen it's seemed to work and prolong his career, so that would be positive, but I think it really depends on the cause of why the cardiac arrest happened. Fingers crossed he's able to have a similar outcome to Eriksen |
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Post by morg on Dec 21, 2023 15:27:34 GMT
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 21, 2023 16:35:08 GMT
Excellent news. I'm sure he will take his time to make the right decision for him and his family. I would imagine he'll be keen to speak to Eriksen and others who have ICDs fitted and continued their careers, or not. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 29, 2023 22:52:12 GMT
Brilliant! Here's hoping he can continue in a safe way! |
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Post by welwyn on Jan 29, 2024 12:56:26 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jan 29, 2024 13:18:20 GMT
One hundred percent in agreement. Was starting to think - as I clicked thro - that he was spotted at Elland Road ... along with half of Wales signing for LUFC ;-) |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jan 29, 2024 23:07:07 GMT
Seen him on the BBC talking about enjoying his life doing DIY. Looks like his playing days are over
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Post by iantov on Jan 30, 2024 15:54:32 GMT
Seen him on the BBC talking about enjoying his life doing DIY. Looks like his playing days are over I saw the Sky report where he went to a Luton training session and I didn't read it like that at all. He mentioned that he missed the uniqueness of being a pro and as a normally very active person inside and outside of football, he has resorted to jigsaw's, lego and DIY to keep himself as active as possible. I'm not saying that he will play again of course but definitely no confirmation or even an indication from him that his playing days are over in that interview for me. |
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Post by welwyn on Jan 31, 2024 10:27:48 GMT
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 31, 2024 11:49:06 GMT
Hard to say from the video but I would guess that it's more likely he's looking to return than not.
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Post by welrus on Feb 18, 2024 21:14:39 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 13, 2024 15:56:44 GMT
Luton reporting Tom is back in training. Great news
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 13, 2024 22:37:37 GMT
Amazing passion from the lad. Hopefully he doesn't push himself too hard for this though. Great work from amazing people when he was most vulnerable has given him the chance to be here. Hopefully whatever he chooses will turn out to be the correct decision.
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