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Post by bazpugh76 on Feb 13, 2019 10:48:13 GMT
Hopefully it'll now be Zagreb but could also be Rijeka which is a lot closer to Zagreb than Osijek
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Post by sleepy on Feb 13, 2019 10:48:54 GMT
Ok so had a look into the type of matches played in Split and I don't think they'll play it there (touch wood). In the last 10 years they've only played 3 games there. One a qualifying game against Georgia in 2011. One a friendly against Switzerland in 2012. Then they didn't play there again until 2015 where they played a qualifier against Italy but this was behind closed doors. It'd be nothing short of a disgrace if the match isn't played in Osijek and moved to Split instead of Zagreb. They have played in June in Split for rhe last 2 euro qualifiers. Admittedly this was 2011 and 2015.
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Post by manulike on Feb 13, 2019 12:20:17 GMT
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Post by fireboy0610 on Feb 13, 2019 12:51:41 GMT
Well if thats the case they should have sorted it 4 days ago. What a bloody farce.
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Post by manulike on Feb 13, 2019 14:53:03 GMT
I'd like to think that the FAW has a leading role in this and that they are pushing forcibly for a move to Zagreb. Surely, their fan survey shows at least 4k wanting to go to Zagreb (I'd imagine around 3k to Budapest as well).
Seeing Zagreb has double the capacity of Osijek, I'd be prepared to miss out on my Spa Day in Osijek - for the greater good ;-)
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Post by sleepy on Feb 13, 2019 15:20:10 GMT
I'd like to think that the FAW has a leading role in this and that they are pushing forcibly for a move to Zagreb. I fully agree with this. Anyone who has paid to become an FAW member, and has completed a survey to state their interest, should be able to expect that the FAW use the survey results to engage and negotiate with the Croatian FA. In fact, the FAW should have done this as soon as the results were known - not when Osijek was announced - they may have already done this.
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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 13, 2019 15:43:37 GMT
This is what I've just been told by the FAW ticket office;
"UEFA are still to confirm the venue so it is possible that the match could be played elsewhere. At this stage we don’t know whether or not this will be the case."
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Post by steveh on Feb 13, 2019 17:12:53 GMT
So having waited for the venue to be announced, to avoid another Aarhus situation, we’ve all now booked flights to Osijek which could still be a complete waste of time and money.
Shambles is not the word!
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Post by manulike on Feb 13, 2019 18:22:57 GMT
So having waited for the venue to be announced, to avoid another Aarhus situation, we’ve all now booked flights to Osijek which could still be a complete waste of time and money. Shambles is not the word! To be fair, the advice we were always given, is wait until the FAW announces the location. In this case, they did appear to do that a few hours after the HNS announced Osijek. The official HNS still has Osijek as the venue and their Twitter account has gone stone cold. The FAW has long removed the venue from their site and it now says TBC.
Hopefully, this is a learning curve for us all.
Very harsh to lay the blame to this on the doorsteps of the FAW.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 13, 2019 18:27:31 GMT
So having waited for the venue to be announced, to avoid another Aarhus situation, we’ve all now booked flights to Osijek which could still be a complete waste of time and money. Shambles is not the word! To be fair, the advice we were always given, is wait until the FAW announces the location. In this case, they did appear to do that a few hours after the HNS announced Osijek. The official HNS still has Osijek as the venue and their Twitter account has gone stone cold. The FAW has long removed the venue from their site and it now says TBC. Hopefully, this is a learning curve for us all.
Very harsh to lay the blame to this on the doorsteps of the FAW.
I'm prepared to give the FAW the benefit of the doubt. But a bit of info to their paid up members every now and again wouldn't do any harm.
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Post by manulike on Feb 13, 2019 18:37:33 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Feb 13, 2019 18:43:32 GMT
But nothing official from the FAW themselves.
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Post by manulike on Feb 13, 2019 18:48:11 GMT
Has anyone here received the latest FSF Cymru Newsletter yesterday? Apparently it was emailed to members, but I can't find it online. People discussing it on Twitter seem to suggest that, for the criteria for the Away double-header in June, the FAW may go further back beyond WC 2018? corky - can you please create an online link to the Newsletter?
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Post by rioonamazy on Feb 13, 2019 18:49:52 GMT
Anyone in the know just explain.....why would UEFA intervene and say it has to be Zagreb. Have FAW made any objections. If not then surely uefa wont object and OSIJEK is a go just waiting for the 'meeting' next week. Unless the 'meeting' is to discuss possble objections. FAW should at least say whether they are or aren't happy with the venue. Nothing came of Aarhuas being changed.
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Post by ger27 on Feb 13, 2019 21:10:44 GMT
Anyone in the know just explain.....why would UEFA intervene and say it has to be Zagreb. Have FAW made any objections. If not then surely uefa wont object and OSIJEK is a go just waiting for the 'meeting' next week. Unless the 'meeting' is to discuss possble objections. FAW should at least say whether they are or aren't happy with the venue. Nothing came of Aarhuas being changed. UEFA rules are quite clear in that every match needs to be played within 90 minutes of an international airport with daily flights. Given that Osijek Airport closes for weekends, surely that means that it doesn't count as "daily" and thus doesn't qualify (especially so given that the game is on a saturday)? I can imagine UEFA would be flexible with this type of rule for some countries, but not when the country in question has a much more suitable stadium in its capital city ready to be used.
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Post by manulike on Feb 13, 2019 21:17:59 GMT
Anyone in the know just explain.....why would UEFA intervene and say it has to be Zagreb. Have FAW made any objections. If not then surely uefa wont object and OSIJEK is a go just waiting for the 'meeting' next week. Unless the 'meeting' is to discuss possble objections. FAW should at least say whether they are or aren't happy with the venue. Nothing came of Aarhuas being changed. UEFA rules are quite clear in that every match needs to be played within 90 minutes of an international airport with daily flights. Given that Osijek Airport closes for weekends, surely that means that it doesn't count as "daily" and thus doesn't qualify (especially so given that the game is on a saturday)? I can imagine UEFA would be flexible with this type of rule for some countries, but not when the country in question has a much more suitable stadium in its capital city ready to be used. At last someone making sense of this
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Post by latchyrhos on Feb 13, 2019 22:27:57 GMT
So Split it is then? or Rijeka or maybe STADION NK VARAŽDIN, VARAŽDIN, where they are playing their next game after us v Tunisia, god forbid
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Post by steveh on Feb 14, 2019 9:20:06 GMT
To be fair, the advice we were always given, is wait until the FAW announces the location. In this case, they did appear to do that a few hours after the HNS announced Osijek. The official HNS still has Osijek as the venue and their Twitter account has gone stone cold. The FAW has long removed the venue from their site and it now says TBC. Hopefully, this is a learning curve for us all.
Very harsh to lay the blame to this on the doorsteps of the FAW.
I'm prepared to give the FAW the benefit of the doubt. But a bit of info to their paid up members every now and again wouldn't do any harm. Unfortunately we booked our flights the day the fixture was confirmed, albeit temporarily by the FAW, surely they would have a list of authorised venues to do their initial planning? When Osijek was announced and wasn’t on that list it would have been flagged? An official update from them would at least keep us all in the picture, the silence isn’t helping at all.
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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 14, 2019 9:51:47 GMT
I'm prepared to give the FAW the benefit of the doubt. But a bit of info to their paid up members every now and again wouldn't do any harm. Unfortunately we booked our flights the day the fixture was confirmed, albeit temporarily by the FAW, surely they would have a list of authorised venues to do their initial planning? When Osijek was announced and wasn’t on that list it would have been flagged? An official update from them would at least keep us all in the picture, the silence isn’t helping at all. Correct. What counts as an official venue announcement? Both FA's posted the venue on their website.. that makes it pretty official. Won't be surprised if some compensation claims come from this, especially if the game is re-routed to Split. The Aarhus/Copenhagen situation was completely different to this too.
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Post by steveh on Feb 14, 2019 13:26:39 GMT
From a purely selfish point of view I hope it’s Split as that’s where we fly in to before a flight to Osijek, it’s far nicer than Zagreb as well.
Nightmare for those booked for Zagreb though!
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Post by manulike on Feb 14, 2019 13:31:04 GMT
From a purely selfish point of view I hope it’s Split as that’s where we fly in to before a flight to Osijek, it’s far nicer than Zagreb as well. Nightmare for those booked for Zagreb though! To be honest, if the FAW manage to secure 3k (or more?) tickets due to this blunder, I wouldn't even mind if the match was played in Dublin ;-)
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Post by manulike on Feb 14, 2019 17:31:38 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Feb 14, 2019 17:50:40 GMT
Believe it or not I emailed them at lunchtime asking them to put out a tweet to update.
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Post by latchyrhos on Feb 14, 2019 21:11:54 GMT
So have we any idea when a decision will be made? A final decision this time hopefully;-)
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Post by manulike on Feb 14, 2019 22:36:34 GMT
So have we any idea when a decision will be made? A final decision this time hopefully;-) Bryn Law was tweeting about a meeting tomorrow. Hopefully, the FAW will make some noise and get extra ticket allocation through this ;-)
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Post by fireboy0610 on Feb 15, 2019 0:07:17 GMT
So have we any idea when a decision will be made? A final decision this time hopefully;-) Bryn Law was tweeting about a meeting tomorrow. Hopefully, the FAW will make some noise and get extra ticket allocation through this ;-) Please let it be zagreb🙏 Pretty please
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Post by prestatyn4457 on Feb 15, 2019 15:15:50 GMT
Bryn Law was tweeting about a meeting tomorrow. Hopefully, the FAW will make some noise and get extra ticket allocation through this ;-) Please let it be zagreb🙏 Pretty please This /\ /\
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Post by sleepy on Feb 15, 2019 15:21:05 GMT
Please let it be zagreb🙏 Pretty please This /\ /\ I don't think it can possibly be in Split now whatever happens, seeing as the FAW site listed Osijek which is at least 8 hours from Split.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 15, 2019 17:21:32 GMT
Croatian FA are taking the piss. How long until they announce something?
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 15, 2019 17:21:34 GMT
Croatian FA are taking the piss. How long until they announce something?
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