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Post by flynnfan on Aug 22, 2011 11:50:33 GMT
Another thing worth mentioning here is that (aside from in England) test cricket is dying and shorter forms of the game are taking over. The shorter forms give smaller nations more of a chance to perform, as we've seen with those famous Holland and Ireland victories over England. I really think its in the interests of the ICC to help spread the game by bringing more smaller nations into play, as it were. Nations such as Wales.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 24, 2011 13:58:49 GMT
Another thing worth mentioning here is that (aside from in England) test cricket is dying a Fair play, that statement is utter horseshit
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Post by flynnfan on Aug 24, 2011 14:51:25 GMT
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Post by stu on Aug 24, 2011 19:51:57 GMT
My guess is that it's because instead of embracing new countries and welcoming them they operate it like an old boys club. Ireland beat England in the world cup (who are meant to be the best team in the world apparently) and they reduce the amount of teams that can enter.
What a joke.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 24, 2011 12:15:03 GMT
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Post by Tim P on Sept 24, 2011 13:47:36 GMT
No one should be surprised by this. This is the level of esteem Wales is held in by british people. And, yes, I would be more than happy to start out against 'minnows' - because continuing in the current fashion leaves us looking like the exact stereotype that british people portray us as.
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Post by saints19 on Sept 24, 2011 14:30:39 GMT
Indeed, the patronising reply from that sop is entirely representative of the entire British people, which of course includes people from Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 24, 2011 15:59:31 GMT
Indeed, the patronising reply from that sop is entirely representative of the entire British people, which of course includes people from Scotland and Northern Ireland. I'll be honest: I deliberately cast that one out there for you...like Joey Barton baiting 'Carl' Henry ;D But, many a true word is spoken in jest - and we all know, if we're able to be honest enough with ourselves, that 'british' does indeed only cover english people.
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Post by stu on Sept 24, 2011 16:19:53 GMT
It's like I said, it's an old boys club. They don't want new countries coming in and taking a slice of their cash.
Rugby is slowly embracing newer nations and making itself more inclusive. Cricket wants to go backwards.
And yes, I'd rather Wales had a team that were competing against the likes of Namibia or Germany than not have a team and instead be represented by a team consisting of South Africans. In much the same way that I want Wales to have a football team who may never qualify for a tournament rather than have a team GB.
Maybe they've seen the way football went when all those foreigners became better than the country that invented the game and how The FA have pretty much bugger all say in the running of the game and are afraid the same thing will happen with Cricket.
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Post by saints19 on Sept 24, 2011 16:53:22 GMT
Indeed, the patronising reply from that sop is entirely representative of the entire British people, which of course includes people from Scotland and Northern Ireland. I'll be honest: I deliberately cast that one out there for you...like Joey Barton baiting 'Carl' Henry ;D But, many a true word is spoken in jest - and we all know, if we're able to be honest enough with ourselves, that 'british' does indeed only cover english people. Except by 'English people', you probably don't even mean all English people. Just a fraction of the population, which still harbours quaintly Victorian views regarding just about everything, but particularly about the British Empire.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 24, 2011 19:26:08 GMT
Surely if Wales separates from the England and Wales cricket board then both nations would have to start at the same level.
Or ist it one rule for them and one rule for us?
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Post by raptor on Sept 24, 2011 21:55:15 GMT
I wont be signing this.
Glammy will be forced to join a cricket league of Wales or be exiled to Gloucestershire.
Lol, just like Newport County...
Oh I see... you still want them in the english system......
Hmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by georgetm1 on Sept 24, 2011 22:55:24 GMT
Haven't they noticed that the Shitish Empire broke down years ago. Pure empirialist thinking. And I personally don't care about Glamorgan Cricket club because they represent just one area in Wales, but a national team would represent the whole of Wales.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 24, 2011 22:59:02 GMT
Same here. People go on about Glamorgan as if its more important than Wales. It's not.
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Post by raptor on Sept 25, 2011 12:49:02 GMT
You do realise that if you formed an Wales side that Welshmen would never play international cricket again.
Unless you counted games against Andorra or the likes.
Any decentish Welshman would go live in England, earn a big wage and play for England under residency.
That Welshman would be you or me, don't kid yourselves otherwise, the money would be enough.
It is odd but Glamorgan is Welsh cricket, and I'm from Gwent.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 25, 2011 14:53:33 GMT
Why couldn't Welsh cricket develop over the years and become a test side? Perhaps over the years we might lose one or two players, but so what? We'd get there in the end. Also: if I, and I suspect a lot of other people, was of the standard to play for the english, I'd just go and play in the IPL - for more money. And maybe qualify through residency for India
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 25, 2011 15:15:15 GMT
It is odd but Glamorgan is Welsh cricket, --------------------------
NO, IT'S NOT!! At about the age of 6/7 I became a cricket fan and identified myself as Welsh. I've never supprted Glamorgan. I don't give a shit about Glamorgan.
We are perfectly capable of becoming a test playing nation in time. New Zealand only has a slightly bigger population than Wales, and probably only a few thousand more players. Test cricket will also continue to diminish in time as other forms of the game take over, which also gives encouragement to the smaller nations like Wales. If Ireland and Holland can beat England in limited overs cricket, so can we.
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Post by raptor on Sept 25, 2011 15:19:34 GMT
It is odd but Glamorgan is Welsh cricket, -------------------------- NO, IT'S NOT!! At about the age of 6/7 I became a cricket fan and identified myself as Welsh. I've never supprted Glamorgan. I don't give a shit about Glamorgan. We are perfectly capable of becoming a test playing nation in time. New Zealand only has a slightly bigger population than Wales, and probably only a few thousand more players. Test cricket will also continue to diminish in time as other forms of the game take over, which also gives encouragement to the smaller nations like Wales. If Ireland and Holland can beat England in limited overs cricket, so can we. Who is it you follow, if anyone?
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Post by raptor on Sept 25, 2011 15:21:43 GMT
I'd be glad to see a Wales team, but not at the expense of Glamorgan losing their place in the England and Wales set up.
Which has been stated by the ICB. (Apparently).
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Post by raptor on Sept 25, 2011 15:23:48 GMT
Alistair Cook is half Welsh isn't he?
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Post by raptor on Sept 25, 2011 15:27:57 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 25, 2011 15:52:47 GMT
Who is it you follow, if anyone? --------------------
Used to be Lancashire and England, through my Dad. But now, no-one really. I watch cricket as a neutral these days and will continue to do so until Wales has a team. I watched a lot of the last world cup for the skill and the spectacle. It was great, but at the same time I fould it sad and frustrating that Wales weren't a part of it...especially when you see what Ireland achieved.
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Post by raptor on Sept 25, 2011 18:05:10 GMT
Who is it you follow, if anyone? -------------------- Used to be Lancashire and England, through my Dad. But now, no-one really. I watch cricket as a neutral these days and will continue to do so until Wales has a team. I watched a lot of the last world cup for the skill and the spectacle. It was great, but at the same time I fould it sad and frustrating that Wales weren't a part of it...especially when you see what Ireland achieved. Glamorgan and England for me. I'm glued to any ashes series and gutted the WIndies are shite because that series was a pleasure too. Ambition is to do an away series in either/both Aus and WI. Getting mates to go with you is the problem, can't get anyone for Bulgaria, sad state of affairs, we used to have about 8 regulars.
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Post by llannerch on Sept 27, 2011 12:09:49 GMT
You do realise that if you formed an Wales side that Welshmen would never play international cricket again. Unless you counted games against Andorra or the likes. Any decentish Welshman would go live in England, earn a big wage and play for England under residency. That Welshman would be you or me, don't kid yourselves otherwise, the money would be enough. It is odd but Glamorgan is Welsh cricket, and I'm from Gwent. Hear, hear. The professional, elite end of the game would wither and die. What would fund the games against affiliate members of the ICC? Let me guess, begging bowls out to the Welsh Government? Spreading the jam even further would actually divert money away from other sports
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Post by flynnfan on Dec 14, 2011 21:52:56 GMT
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Post by stu on Dec 14, 2011 23:24:47 GMT
Good spot, any real patriots would boycott glam and ingurlund games.
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Post by Tim P on Dec 14, 2011 23:36:50 GMT
Fucking hell, that is a joke. What a bunch of twats.
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Post by flynnfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:12:03 GMT
So much of the Welsh establishment loves sucking Ingurlish cock and it makes me sick.
When I took the train into Cardiff recently, there were some pictures of the city up around the station to try and prettify the work going on around there, some of which were sporting scenes. Of course the Welsh national rugby team playing at the mill was featured (no problem with that), also featured were scenes of England playing at Sophia gardens. If there were any photo's of Cardiff City playing I missed them. If there were any photo's of Cardiff's 3 most famous current sportmen- Bale, Bellamy and Giggs playing for Wales in their home city I missed them too. Basically it seemed that display was saying to visitors - Welcome to the Welsh capital! - We prefer England to Wales here!
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Post by llannerch on Dec 15, 2011 13:18:48 GMT
187 signatures is pretty poor. In the democracy that we are, I hope that it gets a shrift that is very short from government
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Post by stu on Dec 15, 2011 19:32:57 GMT
It's 177 more than needed for the Assembly to look at it.
Have I ever mentioned how much I detest unionists?
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