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Post by caeboy on Apr 22, 2014 22:54:26 GMT
Can someone explain to me who is trying to persuade this guy to prefer ODIs to county cricket? I thought the topic was about Wales not Tbm's personal sporting preferences, therefore I must have missed this! The topic is about Wales gaining an ODI team. This would jeopardise Glamorgan's continued participation in the County Championship. That's the relevance of first class over ODI. Conjecture again Uncle Tbm. You should be more worried about Lord MacLaurin getting rid of your county team , as the consultation papers regarding an International team for Wales indicate that there's no reason why the two shouldn't exist alongside each other.
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Post by tbm on Apr 23, 2014 11:37:47 GMT
Going round in circles again...
Okay, so how did the consultancy paper say Glamorgan would be funded? Was it a more viable way than the WAG sugar-daddying them ad infinitum?
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Post by caeboy on Apr 23, 2014 12:19:57 GMT
The sum total of money going into cricket in Wales through the ECB of A few million is pittance! Love how if you're talking about ECB money it's 'investment', when it comes to ICC, Welsh Government , Wales Tourism etc it's 'subsidy' or 'sugar-dad dying'.
It's a publicly accessible document so why don't you take the time to read it yourself.
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Post by rrs on Apr 23, 2014 12:29:52 GMT
World Cup? Seriously? Yet again, for the seemingly billionth time, I'm not interested in one-day cricket. I've never even seen one game of the ODI World Cup. I want Glamorgan to remain playing first-class cricket. The only "financing model" that has been offered to allow that to happen is that the Welsh Government should just give Glamorgan money. I don't think that is a sufficient model. I'm getting really tired of this. You're trying to persuade me to prefer an ODI Wales team to four-day Glamorgan by just insulting me incessantly. We're just going round in circles. Just accept it and move on. So Just accept it and move on... As long as; 1.he can have the last post. 2. He can dismiss all calls for Wales to have a representative team as anti-English or childish. 3. Nobody 'likes' any opposing opinion. This is spot on! He can't see that the reason he's GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES is because he's an arrogant Ingurland moron whose too busy looking to find obstacles than to listen.
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Post by tbm on Apr 23, 2014 12:41:01 GMT
Feel free to have the last post after this. I never said it was anti-English to want a Wales ODI team. I have no problem with anyone liking any post, I said as much above your quoted post.
What I did say, however, was that all you, Mr RRS, are doing is insulting me incessantly and that I have grown tired of that. I even asked you your views on the actual sport and you dodged it in favour of calling me a moron again. Have a good day and all the best.
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Post by rrs on Apr 23, 2014 16:19:01 GMT
Feel free to have the last post after this. I never said it was anti-English to want a Wales ODI team. I have no problem with anyone liking any post, I said as much above your quoted post. What I did say, however, was that all you, Mr RRS, are doing is insulting me incessantly and that I have grown tired of that. I even asked you your views on the actual sport and you dodged it in favour of calling me a moron again. Have a good day and all the best. Get on a cricket forum if you want to discuss the ins and out of the sport of cricket. There's bound to be a few old boys you can chat to who like you are happy to shit on Wales for a blazer and a badge. Then nick off and support your England cricket team and you may as well pop off and support the England football team instead of Wales while you're at it. It's the same principle after all.
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Post by caeboy on Apr 24, 2014 16:32:17 GMT
Its an absolute disgrace that we are being denied a national team. But the worse thing is that it isn't an English choice, it made by a shite cricket team that only people living in that area support and by our traitor AM's sitting on there fat sycophantic arses in Cardiff Bay. We are being denied a national team by a fucking club team who can't survive on their own without help from another country. Its totally pathetic. Interestingly each of the Glamorgan players who were asked said they wanted a Wales national team. Seems that there's still enough in the Glamorgan self preservation society and Welsh Uncle Tom's at Lords to fuck Wales over though.
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Post by flynnfan on May 15, 2015 12:02:19 GMT
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Post by georgetm1 on May 15, 2015 13:05:50 GMT
Pathetic. I would rather that money being used to set up our national team, than to pay off some "team" who plays in another countries league.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jul 2, 2019 15:59:20 GMT
Could only find this thread.
Anyone been enjoying the cricket world cup.
Been some exciting games and really want Afghanistan to win a match they deserve it.
Why ain't Wales got a cricket team its seems unfair?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 2, 2019 16:10:39 GMT
Could only find this thread. Anyone been enjoying the cricket world cup. Been some exciting games and really want Afghanistan to win a match they deserve it. Why ain't Wales got a cricket team its seems unfair? Because we are represented by the England cricket team. The ECB is actually the English and Welsh cricket board, but to me the fact that it abbreviates to ECB is a big insult in itself. If Wales broke away from the ECB, it would find itself without a leg to stand on due to how the ICC governs the sport. There is absolutely no chance of a new nation in cricket succeeding.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jul 2, 2019 21:56:49 GMT
Could only find this thread. Anyone been enjoying the cricket world cup. Been some exciting games and really want Afghanistan to win a match they deserve it. Why ain't Wales got a cricket team its seems unfair? Because we are represented by the England cricket team. The ECB is actually the English and Welsh cricket board, but to me the fact that it abbreviates to ECB is a big insult in itself. If Wales broke away from the ECB, it would find itself without a leg to stand on due to how the ICC governs the sport. There is absolutely no chance of a new nation in cricket succeeding. Thanks. Afghanistan are a newish nation at cricket?
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Post by iantov on Jul 3, 2019 18:29:16 GMT
Because we are represented by the England cricket team. The ECB is actually the English and Welsh cricket board, but to me the fact that it abbreviates to ECB is a big insult in itself. If Wales broke away from the ECB, it would find itself without a leg to stand on due to how the ICC governs the sport. There is absolutely no chance of a new nation in cricket succeeding. Thanks. Afghanistan are a newish nation at cricket? Yes...2017. Ireland also 2017
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Post by iantov on Jul 3, 2019 18:55:18 GMT
The Isle of Man, Guernsey, Russia, China, Scotland and even St Helena (Saint Helena measures about 16 by 8 kilometres (10 by 5 mi) and has a population of 4,534 - more people live in Pontyberem than St Helena ffs...) are associated ICC Members. Surely Wales can support an independent cricket team in comparison?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 3, 2019 22:19:00 GMT
The Isle of Man, Guernsey, Russia, China, Scotland and even St Helena (Saint Helena measures about 16 by 8 kilometres (10 by 5 mi) and has a population of 4,534 - more people live in Pontyberem than St Helena ffs...) are associated ICC Members. Surely Wales can support an independent cricket team in comparison? Have a look at the posts earlier in the thread about what would happen to Glamorgan, as well as the fact that Welsh players would still opt to play for England if they wanted to play test cricket.
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Post by caeboy on Jul 4, 2019 7:28:44 GMT
The Isle of Man, Guernsey, Russia, China, Scotland and even St Helena (Saint Helena measures about 16 by 8 kilometres (10 by 5 mi) and has a population of 4,534 - more people live in Pontyberem than St Helena ffs...) are associated ICC Members. Surely Wales can support an independent cricket team in comparison? Have a look at the posts earlier in the thread about what would happen to Glamorgan, as well as the fact that Welsh players would still opt to play for England if they wanted to play test cricket. The point on Welsh players still opting to play for England is an irrelevant excuse. As the only option currently available Welsh players opt to play for England now - how many of them have actually done so in the last decade? Has there been even one? There's have been far, far more players from South Africa or New Zealand etc in the England team than Welsh players in that time. Plus having an international team would not hinder players opportunity to play at a higher level in anyway. Ireland have an international team, it doesn't prevent Irishman Eoin Morgan captaining England, or England taking Joffrey Archer from the West Indies. There's no doubt that more English born players would be gained by finding a Welsh relative so than can play for international cricket for Wales, than Welsh players lost. Each of the Glamorgan players who were asked said they wanted a Wales national team - despite self preservationist Hugh Morris' pressure on them to say otherwise no doubt.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 4, 2019 8:58:49 GMT
Have a look at the posts earlier in the thread about what would happen to Glamorgan, as well as the fact that Welsh players would still opt to play for England if they wanted to play test cricket. The point on Welsh players still opting to play for England is an irrelevant excuse. As the only option currently available Welsh players opt to play for England now - how many of them have actually done so in the last decade? Has there been even one? There's have been far, far more players from South Africa or New Zealand etc in the England team than Welsh players in that time. Plus having an international team would not hinder players opportunity to play at a higher level in anyway. Ireland have an international team, it doesn't prevent Irishman Eoin Morgan captaining England, or England taking Joffrey Archer from the West Indies. There's no doubt that more English born players would be gained by finding a Welsh relative so than can play for international cricket for Wales, than Welsh players lost. Each of the Glamorgan players who were asked said they wanted a Wales national team - despite self preservationist Hugh Morris' pressure on them to say otherwise no doubt. I'm out of my depth here. Bowing out.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Jul 4, 2019 14:54:42 GMT
Why not have a national cricket team?
We could (with sufficient sponsors, tv ,radio coverage etc..) potentially have our own county championship.
Wales is marginalised at the moment (rare test matches and a few one days) in this respect by being subordinate to England's dominance (ECB), with Wales being the add-on when it suits.
Glamorgan could have a team in this new Welsh championship, and quality players could always move on to English clubs or overseas if desired.
Also what a waste of money/white elephant Sophia Gardens has proved. A multi purpose stadium (including cricket) would have been preferable with greater all year round use.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 4, 2019 17:04:39 GMT
FYI I'm on the side of having one.
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Post by welshiron on Jul 5, 2019 8:36:30 GMT
Think it has to happen but something needs to be done to generate more income from the stadium.
No reason why Glamorgan couldn't continue in the county championship like Cardiff and Swansea etc.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jul 8, 2019 18:42:15 GMT
Is this the same with the england womens international team?
Saw them playing against the Australians the other day in a 50 over game and was suprised that the boundary was within spitting distance of the wicket unlike the men's game.
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