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Post by talyfan on Sept 16, 2024 13:40:10 GMT
The whole system Ange Postecoglu plays isn't suited to Brennan, even more exacerbated as he's hellbent on keeping possession for the sake of it.
His time at Forest he was up top playing in a front two in a counter attacking side. More emphasis on him scoring as opposed to being the creator. He's playing a completely different role now. Obviously work rate has improved but we're not seeing him impact games like he can do.
It's why we probably see the same performances of him in a Wales shirt like he does for Spurs at the minute. System doesn't play to his strengths.
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Post by iot on Sept 16, 2024 14:11:33 GMT
Every player's form will fluctuate, and he's obviously not in a good run of form currently and isn't playing with a lot of confidence. He's had some positive spells with Spurs, but has far from lived up to the price tag overall.
I've seen a lot of him with Forest in the Championship, Premier League and now with Spurs. In that time watching him, I know he has it in him to produce those devastating balls from the byline and grab a few goals from the backpost, and I'm confident it'll come back. His overall game, press and defensive work ethic is now a lot better, so he just needs to get back to producing the attacking quality he did earlier in his career.
I was really pleased with what I saw against Turkey, because he got into the right positions, showed a good attitude and had an impact on the game. Sure his final ball wasn't there, but I know that it's not a weakness of his (he's already shown that) so once his form comes back those great runs will lead to assists and goals.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 16, 2024 14:57:28 GMT
Yes, a sense of perspective is needed here. He's shown he has a lot if capability so we need to have a bit of faith in him that his form will lift. The fact he's adding graft and defensive output to his game should offset the criticism he's getting. Work hard and things will turn around.
He completed 13 of 14 passes yesterday and had one accurate cross from one attempt. So the problem yesterday seemed to be that Spurs didn't get him sufficiently involved.
Also remember he got 10 assists (0.39 per 90 minutes, 87th percentile) and 5 goals last season - one of the best assist tallies in the league, despite starting in only 26 games, playing 35 in total.
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Post by reyrey on Sept 16, 2024 15:23:44 GMT
Every cross he attempted yesterday hit the first defender.
Very very poor and something he quickly needs to address.
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Post by surge on Sept 16, 2024 17:03:47 GMT
Every cross he attempted yesterday hit the first defender. Very very poor and something he quickly needs to address. But that's not true. See the chance for Solanke in early second half as an example, although this may have been slightly behind perfect placement. Furthermore, if Spurs only had one attacker in the box compared to Arsenal having multiple defenders... |
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Post by insertname on Sept 16, 2024 19:33:19 GMT
Awful comments following the Spurs game last night, most notably about his crossing ability - which was evident against Turkey. What's happened with him? Is it confidence? Is it work ethic and drive? He was a standout championship player, but has struggled since moving to the PL. I don't blame Spurs fans for getting frustrated, he was bought for almost 50 mill, which now looks like very bad business sadly. I'm starting to come to terms that he's been vastly overrated. Overhyped, certainly on here. I don’t think he was that good at Forest really, at least not enough such that Spurs coming in for him was a surprise. He’s not really produced much in terms of memorable performances at international level either. It did make me wince when they sold Kane and spent half the money on Johnson, that never felt like it was a good result for anyone involved, apart from Johnson’s bank balance of course. |
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Post by rushy on Sept 16, 2024 20:13:09 GMT
I made the point previously that Brennan was not ready for such a big move and the added huge transfer fee.
However he is undoubtedly restricted by the Aussie/ Greek's use of him, yesterday was his worst display, but the performance of Spurs as a whole was really poor.
I think Postecoglou has been found out.
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Post by insertname on Sept 16, 2024 20:29:42 GMT
I made the point previously that Brennan was not ready for such a big move and the added huge transfer fee. However he is undoubtedly restricted by the Aussie/ Greek's use of him, yesterday was his worst display, but the performance of Spurs as a whole was really poor. I think Postecoglou has been found out. I had high hopes for him during the initial honeymoon period as his football seemed like the perfect antidote to the dour, formulaic, control-freak football of the likes of Pep. But it looks like he’s going to be gone sooner rather than later. Probably leaves Johnson’s Spurs career in jeopardy when that happens. |
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 16, 2024 21:12:54 GMT
is he a player who has either been over hyped/ misused by several managers/hasnt reached his potential
time will tell, Do we think Bellamy can get the best out him? and if so where do we think that will be -playing as a wide forward or more centrally
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Post by reyrey on Sept 17, 2024 12:06:46 GMT
Every cross he attempted yesterday hit the first defender. Very very poor and something he quickly needs to address. But that's not true. See the chance for Solanke in early second half as an example, although this may have been slightly behind perfect placement. Furthermore, if Spurs only had one attacker in the box compared to Arsenal having multiple defenders... My bad, what I meant to say was every cross bar one hit the first defender. |
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Post by iot on Sept 17, 2024 12:20:58 GMT
Awful comments following the Spurs game last night, most notably about his crossing ability - which was evident against Turkey. What's happened with him? Is it confidence? Is it work ethic and drive? He was a standout championship player, but has struggled since moving to the PL. I don't blame Spurs fans for getting frustrated, he was bought for almost 50 mill, which now looks like very bad business sadly. I'm starting to come to terms that he's been vastly overrated. Overhyped, certainly on here. I don’t think he was that good at Forest really, at least not enough such that Spurs coming in for him was a surprise. He’s not really produced much in terms of memorable performances at international level either. It did make me wince when they sold Kane and spent half the money on Johnson, that never felt like it was a good result for anyone involved, apart from Johnson’s bank balance of course. I don't think he has generally been overhyped on here personally, many of us have often been critical of his performances and workrate / influence on the game in particular. I don't get the need to write him off and describe him as being "vastly overrated". He's not the next Gareth Bale, but he has already shown that he's a good Premier League and has the potential to be a very good one. He's not in great form currently, but it's only a matter of time before that changes. |
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Sept 17, 2024 12:57:05 GMT
He just needds a goal or two at Spurs to lift his morale ahead of our game in Iceland.
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Post by insertname on Sept 17, 2024 16:11:04 GMT
Overhyped, certainly on here. I don’t think he was that good at Forest really, at least not enough such that Spurs coming in for him was a surprise. He’s not really produced much in terms of memorable performances at international level either. It did make me wince when they sold Kane and spent half the money on Johnson, that never felt like it was a good result for anyone involved, apart from Johnson’s bank balance of course. I don't think he has generally been overhyped on here personally, many of us have often been critical of his performances and workrate / influence on the game in particular. I don't get the need to write him off and describe him as being "vastly overrated". He's not the next Gareth Bale, but he has already shown that he's a good Premier League and has the potential to be a very good one. He's not in great form currently, but it's only a matter of time before that changes. He did alright at Forest, but off the back of that I’m pretty sure people had him down as a future CL level player. I can’t see him being anything more than what he looks like at the moment, a mid table Prem player who has the odd highlight reel game but on the whole just doesn’t have the quality to be good enough often enough to compete at the top end of the table and at CL level. For Wales sake I hope he proves me wrong, but I just don’t see it. It’s a bit deflating that, having said all that, he’s still clearly our best player imo in terms of ability and potential at the current time. The cupboard feels bare for players with a solid Prem career ahead of them at the moment. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 17, 2024 16:46:26 GMT
Bellamy really rates him. I think he's a better judge of a player's potential than anyone on here.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 17, 2024 18:32:03 GMT
Looks to me like he's lacking a bit of confidence
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Post by rushy on Sept 17, 2024 19:53:15 GMT
Johnson needs to improve parts of his game, and that's down to him .
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 17, 2024 22:32:09 GMT
Looks to me like he's lacking a bit of confidence that may be the case as not long ago some fans/pundits were stating he was going to be another Bale so the pressure was heaped on him in a Wales shirt, equally said though I agree with what rushy says too, there are some aspects of his game that he alone needs to improve |
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Post by rushy on Sept 18, 2024 12:45:15 GMT
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Post by njdragon on Sept 18, 2024 13:27:37 GMT
Looks to me like he's lacking a bit of confidence that may be the case as not long ago some fans/pundits were stating he was going to be another Bale so the pressure was heaped on him in a Wales shirt, equally said though I agree with what rushy says too, there are some aspects of his game that he alone needs to improve I can't remember him being compared to Bale but what i do remember is some saying he should have played ahead of bale in the world cup which to me, and even with the benefit of hindsight is laughable. |
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 18, 2024 19:10:25 GMT
that may be the case as not long ago some fans/pundits were stating he was going to be another Bale so the pressure was heaped on him in a Wales shirt, equally said though I agree with what rushy says too, there are some aspects of his game that he alone needs to improve I can't remember him being compared to Bale but what i do remember is some saying he should have played ahead of bale in the world cup which to me, and even with the benefit of hindsight is laughable. I am hoping he can move on under Bellamy and become a player who can be that difference maker when we really need it. Will that be the case I am very unsure. |
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 18, 2024 19:14:32 GMT
this is what I could find on recent stats for Wales-  |
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Post by dai on Sept 18, 2024 20:38:55 GMT
Im sure pundits and commentators have referred to him as the man to take over from Bale. Not a direct comparison, but expectation has been there. OTJ only mentioned a few games back that he’s still waiting for Johnson to ‘make in impact’ in a Welsh shirt.
Regardless of that, its clear he’s struggling at this level. A move to a mid table PL would be positive for him I think. A massive weight off his ahoulders for one.
He’s been very quiet and anonymous again tonight against average opposition. On another note, why are Coventry and Spurs playing in such similar kits tonight?
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Post by dai on Sept 18, 2024 20:50:03 GMT
Thank fuck, he’s actually scored the winning (hopefully) goal.
Well done him.
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Post by insertname on Sept 18, 2024 20:52:30 GMT
Good goal just now, in fairness. The sort of thing he used to do at Forest, making a central run in behind, and you don’t see so much with him playing out wide at Spurs.
The positive is that he didn’t start so seems to be considered a first team player still, for now.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 18, 2024 21:13:10 GMT
Nice finish, good run
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Post by rushy on Sept 18, 2024 21:28:37 GMT
Good for him , and Ben Davies clearance from a certain goal was brilliant ...yet again !
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Post by surge on Sept 18, 2024 21:46:26 GMT
Big goal for him and Spurs.
Please remember that we supported Bale when he was getting OTT stick at Spurs and at Real Madrid and reaped the rewards each time. It works this supporting Welsh footballers lark.
Still things for him to work on but hopefully given a bit of breathing space for that to happen now. It was a very tidy finish.
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 18, 2024 21:59:59 GMT
Big goal for him and Spurs. Please remember that we supported Bale when he was getting OTT stick at Spurs and at Real Madrid and reaped the rewards each time. It works this supporting Welsh footballers lark. Still things for him to work on but hopefully given a bit of breathing space for that to happen now. It was a very tidy finish. this is the conundrum for me he has it in his locker so has he not been used correctly or is it him lol I just have this feeling that once it clicks, and I am hoping that is going to happen in the next few games then he wont look back  |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 19, 2024 7:46:45 GMT
Thank fuck, he’s actually scored the winning (hopefully) goal. Well done him. That'll do him the world of good! A nice bit of form before the October double-header wouldn't go amiss. |
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Post by rushy on Sept 19, 2024 13:00:42 GMT
His non celebration after his goal and response to the fans at the end was dramatic , he's almost traumatised.
Shocking to see what the affect of complete useless fookers can do to someone's confidence.
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