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Owen Beck
Sept 14, 2024 19:46:20 GMT
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 14, 2024 19:46:20 GMT
His defensive stats on Fotmob were very good, an 8.2 rating, which is very high for a player not scoring or getting an assist.
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 14, 2024 22:40:13 GMT
Search his name on Twitter, and see the glowing feedback on his performance today. So that's two games in, two brilliant performances. Keep this up and he'll give Bellamy a real selection headache at full back in a month or two! sure he isnt far away from getting some game time think he will be part of the strongest possible U21 in next window though |
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Post by hooky on Sept 15, 2024 14:35:48 GMT
When I watched him against the Czechs at U21 level and before that, then while his attacking play was excellent, his defending was a weakness, including his positional play / defensive anticipation of things. He did not shirk a challenge though!
So its really exciting to hear these comments about how that side of his game is coming together
BTW - was Neco dropped by Forest yesterday? He was a bit poor for Wales in defensive situations at times versus Turkey. Hopefully he gets back into form by next month!
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Post by athenempadu on Sept 15, 2024 19:45:44 GMT
Search his name on Twitter, and see the glowing feedback on his performance today. So that's two games in, two brilliant performances. Keep this up and he'll give Bellamy a real selection headache at full back in a month or two! Neco Williams (right) and Owen Beck (left) as the two fullbacks works for me, as those are their preferred positions, and they are both good going forward. |
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Post by iot on Sept 15, 2024 19:47:48 GMT
Search his name on Twitter, and see the glowing feedback on his performance today. So that's two games in, two brilliant performances. Keep this up and he'll give Bellamy a real selection headache at full back in a month or two! Neco Williams (right) and Owen Beck (left) as the two fullbacks works for me, as those are their preferred positions, and they are both good going forward. Yes, and I think Connor Roberts was poor for us for a large chunk of the latter part of Page's time in charge. But he was fantastic against Turkey and is great playing the inverted full back role in Bellamy's system, so I'm not a fan of dropping him either! Another rotation option I guess! |
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Owen Beck
Sept 22, 2024 13:04:52 GMT
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 22, 2024 13:04:52 GMT
Seems like it was another local derby too soon for Owen, late red card for him and I'm guessing he might have a real fight on his hands now to make left back his own this season.
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Post by manulike on Sept 22, 2024 13:05:00 GMT
Another passionately fiery performance.
I have no idea how he lasted for 89' without getting a caution.
Got a straight red then (possibly after being bitten?).
Still - a little too much aggression for international level, surely?
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Owen Beck
Sept 22, 2024 13:26:24 GMT
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Post by surge on Sept 22, 2024 13:26:24 GMT
Red card came for kicking a PNE player trying to play on after free-kick had been given.
It wasn't as violent and the "tackle" Martinez did yesterday for a yellow card against Crystal Palace, but it's an offence he shouldn't have made.
In the pushing and pulling afterwards a PNE player did appear to bite back of Beck's neck.
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Post by rushy on Sept 22, 2024 14:39:39 GMT
Lack of discipline showed , so not ready to step up.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 22, 2024 16:13:26 GMT
Looks a little harsh for a red, especially considering the fella who bit him got a yellow Definitely the kind of thing to stamp out before stepping up to senior internationals x.com/onediocom/status/1837871825767764132 |
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Owen Beck
Sept 22, 2024 16:56:26 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 22, 2024 16:56:26 GMT
Lost his head a bit, hopefully not a reflection on his true self. What's more important is how he responds to this.
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 22, 2024 19:06:29 GMT
Another passionately fiery performance. I have no idea how he lasted for 89' without getting a caution. Got a straight red then (possibly after being bitten?). Still - a little too much aggression for international level, surely? He will have to change that if he is going to be an option, dont mind players being aggressive but it has to be controlled and focused but surely his club manager needs to get a grip of this or is he wanting him to play like that |
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Owen Beck
Sept 22, 2024 19:29:01 GMT
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Post by insertname on Sept 22, 2024 19:29:01 GMT
Looks a little harsh for a red, especially considering the fella who bit him got a yellow Definitely the kind of thing to stamp out before stepping up to senior internationals x.com/onediocom/status/1837871825767764132You mean it’s not a red because he’s using his legs rather than his fists? I don’t see any difference personally and am surprised anyone can defend it. He knew what he was doing, it was both blatant and sly to do that to someone running past. Most of all it’s pretty braindead and as others have suggested, makes him something of a liability at this time. |
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Post by hooky on Sept 22, 2024 22:03:20 GMT
As several of you has said he has to learn to control his aggression. Some of his challenges for Wales U20s have looked tasty and could turn to a red card at the margin and football is refed differently than it was in the past
However, I quite like that we now have a couple of players that have an edge about them in our team. We have had players that have arguably been too nice and honest over the year, but now we have physically aggressive players like Amapdu and James, with the latter skilled at committing professional fouls when needed, while Beck, has a hard edge about him and him which makes him stand out compared to our other full backs and even centre back. We do not want him to lose that side of it - but as said he just needs to direct his aggression in the right way given how things are now refed.
Look at teams like Ireland and Scotland to a lesser extent Scotland - they always had a horrible player with an edge over the years which had an overall positive effect on their teams.
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 23, 2024 7:14:15 GMT
Harness and channelling the aggression is fine but if we're to punch above our weight long enough to go up in weight class we need players to be disciplined enough to stay on the pitch and to not give silly things away. I've cut Beck some slack already this season but he's got to reign it in and I think he will, he's played away from home in two big Lancashire derbies, I'm sure the Blackburn fans already love him due to his commitment and aggression but if we're up against it away from home holding onto a point or three in somewhere like Turkey we don't need any rushes of blood to the head.
I've still got high hopes for him, it's a learning curve and one he's had to wait for because of the way certain loans worked out but he's clearly a decent prospect and hopefully a very good option for the next ten years or so.
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Post by iot on Sept 23, 2024 7:58:01 GMT
Some perspective. A quick glance at his career statistics shows that this is only his second red card in 118 games of senior and youth football, and his first since a red with Liverpool's u23s 3 years ago. Think people are getting slightly carried away in running off with this narrative about him being overly-aggressive and ill-disciplined after watching bits of two local derby games. Think people need to chill out a bit...
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 23, 2024 11:38:34 GMT
Forget the youth football, that is irrelevant now once you step up. Last season he was booked 11 times in 29 games. It's an issue but hopefully one that can be worked on.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 23, 2024 17:48:51 GMT
Some perspective. A quick glance at his career statistics shows that this is only his second red card in 118 games of senior and youth football, and his first since a red with Liverpool's u23s 3 years ago. Think people are getting slightly carried away in running off with this narrative about him being overly-aggressive and ill-disciplined after watching bits of two local derby games. Think people need to chill out a bit... One red card really isn't the end of the world, it happens and I like that he's got a bit about him. Obviously he needs to learn to pick his moments and that, but I'm sure he will in time |
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Post by manulike on Sept 23, 2024 19:38:53 GMT
Forget the youth football, that is irrelevant now once you step up. Last season he was booked 11 times in 29 games. It's an issue but hopefully one that can be worked on. I remember Tom Lawrance had an issue a few years back. Did him no harm at all and now he is tearing it up North!
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Post by manulike on Sept 24, 2024 15:33:25 GMT
Sad to discover that Owen "Beck to serve three-match suspension" ;-( via dragonsoccer |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Oct 4, 2024 11:55:12 GMT
The bloke that bit Beck has been banned for 8 games. Still shouldn't have lashed out but it does give his reaction some context.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Oct 4, 2024 12:06:22 GMT
didn't he lash out (red card) before being bitten?
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Owen Beck
Oct 4, 2024 12:13:06 GMT
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Post by bobbyghoul on Oct 4, 2024 12:13:06 GMT
didn't he lash out (red card) before being bitten? Yep. Suspect he wouldn't have received a 3 match ban if he'd been bitten first. |
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Post by dai on Oct 4, 2024 12:20:38 GMT
didn't he lash out (red card) before being bitten? Yes, bitten after kicking the other players. |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Oct 4, 2024 15:56:18 GMT
didn't he lash out (red card) before being bitten? The danger of only knowing half the story and jumping to conclusions. |
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 5, 2024 19:27:54 GMT
The bloke that bit Beck has been banned for 8 games. Still shouldn't have lashed out but it does give his reaction some context. good that was appalling |
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Post by manulike on Oct 19, 2024 13:17:43 GMT
Owen is right back into Rovers' starting 11! With Hedges ;-) Swans with Cooper, Cullen and Cabango.
#Game.On
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 19, 2024 20:35:44 GMT
He picked up a booking today again lol
havent seen any of the game how did he do? I like him seems to have some fire in his belly, dont want him to lose that but will have to reign it in a bit when he gets his chance for national team, sure Bellamy can channel that
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Post by manulike on Oct 19, 2024 21:06:03 GMT
He picked up a booking today again lol havent seen any of the game how did he do? I like him seems to have some fire in his belly, dont want him to lose that but will have to reign it in a bit when he gets his chance for national team, sure Bellamy can channel that Very high tempo and full of runnning. Certainly doesn't lack confidence.
Had two good blocks from the goalmouth. Cullen and Hedges should have had at least two goals each...
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 19, 2024 21:32:16 GMT
He picked up a booking today again lol havent seen any of the game how did he do? I like him seems to have some fire in his belly, dont want him to lose that but will have to reign it in a bit when he gets his chance for national team, sure Bellamy can channel that Very high tempo and full of runnning. Certainly doesn't lack confidence.
Had two good blocks from the goalmouth. Cullen and Hedges should have had at least two goals each...
he is looking a good prospect and its just when he gets his chance now,sure it wont be long Hedges is a decent player shame we have a lot options in his position but I would like to see him in before Burns |
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