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Post by rob on Feb 9, 2024 22:24:51 GMT
Just shows why we should call up to U21s - players are left in age group of date of birth rather than looking at actual skillset.Koumas left in U19s,Morgan not making U19s squad even,Harris demoted from seniors to U21s. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 25, 2024 14:43:02 GMT
On the bench for the EFL Cup final, looking at the other options there may be a decent chance he gets on the pitch..
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 25, 2024 17:25:14 GMT
Feels like every other u21 player got a shout but Koumas remains on the bench. Shame.
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Post by hooky on Feb 25, 2024 19:32:06 GMT
Seems like young Welsh players are the only ones that don't get the run of the green in respect to Grandpa Klopp!
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 26, 2024 23:09:15 GMT
Quite promising that he's making the squad for matchdays, hopefully he gets on a few times between now and the end of the season.
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Post by dragons on Feb 28, 2024 19:45:54 GMT
Starts tonight v Southampton
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Post by hal on Feb 28, 2024 20:23:32 GMT
Has he regularly been in the U21’s for Cymru? Not heard his name mentioned previously for call ups
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 28, 2024 20:59:58 GMT
Debut goal for Koumas!
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 28, 2024 21:29:29 GMT
Has he regularly been in the U21’s for Cymru? Not heard his name mentioned previously for call ups not been in any Wales U21 squad yet Matty Jones on LK last year
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Post by manulike on Feb 28, 2024 21:36:36 GMT
Get him on the bus ;-)
He's got a great eye for goal.
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Post by surge on Feb 28, 2024 21:54:38 GMT
He did all the right things for the goal even if it went in due to a deflection.
But he's an 18 year old in first senior start and you could tell at times. Plenty of potential, plenty of room to grow.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Feb 28, 2024 22:06:24 GMT
Seems like young Welsh players are the only ones that don't get the run of the green in respect to Grandpa Klopp! This post aged like milk. Stupid milk. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 28, 2024 22:19:28 GMT
Has he regularly been in the U21’s for Cymru? Not heard his name mentioned previously for call ups He's played for the u19s |
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Post by dai on Feb 28, 2024 23:29:07 GMT
Seems like young Welsh players are the only ones that don't get the run of the green in respect to Grandpa Klopp! This post aged like milk. Stupid milk. He's only played one game....... |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 29, 2024 1:36:20 GMT
One game one goal. Gwaaan lad
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Post by quetzal on Feb 29, 2024 4:24:54 GMT
Will he play for England though?
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Post by bobbyghoul on Feb 29, 2024 7:57:07 GMT
This post aged like milk. Stupid milk. He's only played one game....... But has he had the run (sic) of the green under Klopp? Sick of reading that club/manger X is against the Welshmen that play for them. It's a ridiculous opinion. |
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Post by dragons on Feb 29, 2024 8:50:36 GMT
Will he play for England though? Don't think we have anything to worry about there, mate. |
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Post by dai on Feb 29, 2024 10:00:09 GMT
He's only played one game....... But has he had the run (sic) of the green under Klopp? Sick of reading that club/manger X is against the Welshmen that play for them. It's a ridiculous opinion. Not suggesting managers are against Welshman, however English players seem to be treated more favourably. |
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Post by iot on Feb 29, 2024 10:39:27 GMT
But has he had the run (sic) of the green under Klopp? Sick of reading that club/manger X is against the Welshmen that play for them. It's a ridiculous opinion. Not suggesting managers are against Welshman, however English players seem to be treated more favourably. Out of interest, who do you think's been hard done by relative to counterparts from other nationalities? I think some of the ones that are most frequently brought up are: - Ampadu - disagree that he should have been given a greater opportunity at Chelsea. He went on four loans to prove that he was at the required level. One of which was a fairly poor season in the prem with Sheffield United, a failed loan in the Bundesliga where he hardly played, and then two decent loans with relegated Seria A sides - looking at it objectively, none of which was enough to be given more of an opportunity at Chelsea when they have so many other options. I'm sure if he'd produced similar levels to what Gallagher did during his loan with Crystal Palace that he would have been given the same sort of opportunity at Chelsea. So he was given a fair crack of the whip in my view.
- Neco - he was given several premier league starts in his breakthrough season, and then further opportunities in subsequent seasons, but struggled slightly at times. Again looking at it objectively, Northern Irishman Connor Bradley is producing better performances than Neco did at a similar age and is being rewarded for it with regular starts. Why would Klopp discriminate more against Welshmen than he does against Northern Irishmen? Also, Liverpool wanted to keep Neco, but it was Neco to his credit that demanded a move in search of first team football. So he was also given a fair crack of the whip imo.
- Wilson - similar to Ampadu, he's always shown that he's a top Championship player but struggles much more in the Prem, and certainly hasn't shown he's good enough for a top 4 side. Selling him for the 10-15m he went for has proven to be a good and fair bargain for all parties imo.
- Beck - struggled on loan last season, including for Bolton where Bradley excelled. Bradley was then given a chance when Beck was cup tied for that Arsenal game at the beginning of Jan and did very well, moving ahead of Beck in the pecking order (a decision which has been more than vindicated). Klopp clearly likes Beck, but understandably there are better players currently ahead of him so it was right for him to be loaned out.
Who am I missing? I can't think of a single Welshman who hasn't been given a fair chance at a top club, and then gone on to really make them regret it (Ampadu possibly the only exception for selling him so cheaply, but he definitely hasn't shown that he's good enough to be a Chelsea player).
The reality is all of the above players are very good footballers, but just not good enough to play for the best clubs in the world, and there's no shame in that. I don't see the point in believing in these conspiracies that they've been held back because of their nationality - obviously the only thing those managers are interested in are their own and their clubs' interests.
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Post by athenempadu on Feb 29, 2024 13:53:14 GMT
Ampadu - a failed loan in the Bundesliga where he hardly played. The move to RB Leipzig never made any sense. He was sent there as a CB when they already had Konate (Liverpool) & Upamecano (Bayern Munich) who were older, and already established in the 1st team. When he was called upon he did a fine job against Spurs in the Champions League quarter-final. On paper, the Sheffield United loan looked good, but they weren't the same team who had performed fairly well the season before. Even Virgil van Dijk would have struggled in that team, and they were shite all season, but Ampadu still managed to pick up a couple of MOTM awards. The two loans to Italy were very underwhelming and yet again he was surrounded by bang average players, but he did his best and somehow managed to shine in Serie A. The move to Leeds is his first "proper" club and finally he is among players who can actually play football, and he is one of their standout performers. The big test will be next season if Leeds manage to get promoted, but judging from last night's performance against Enzo & Caicedo, he shouldn't have too many problems adapting, and if all goes well I expect the 49ers backed team to be very competitive after further player acquisitions. TLDR: Chelsea are a terrible choice for young players who are chasing the dream! |
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Post by iot on Feb 29, 2024 14:46:10 GMT
Ampadu - a failed loan in the Bundesliga where he hardly played. The move to RB Leipzig never made any sense. He was sent there as a CB when they already had Konate (Liverpool) & Upamecano (Bayern Munich) who were older, and already established in the 1st team. When he was called upon he did a fine job against Spurs in the Champions League quarter-final. On paper, the Sheffield United loan looked good, but they weren't the same team who had performed fairly well the season before. Even Virgil van Dijk would have struggled in that team, and they were shite all season, but Ampadu still managed to pick up a couple of MOTM awards. The two loans to Italy were very underwhelming and yet again he was surrounded by bang average players, but he did his best and somehow managed to shine in Serie A. The move to Leeds is his first "proper" club and finally he is among players who can actually play football, and he is one of their standout performers. The big test will be next season if Leeds manage to get promoted, but judging from last night's performance against Enzo & Caicedo, he shouldn't have too many problems adapting, and if all goes well I expect the 49ers backed team to be be very competitive after further player acquisitions. TLDR: Chelsea are a terrible choice for young players who are chasing the dream! Yeah I love Ampadu and think he's the best player of the lot. I thought he'd go to the top for a while, and yet while much of what you say is true (I wouldn't say he shined in Seria A and there were many poor performances alongside the decent ones for Sheff United), he's probably not quite at the level we all hoped when he made his debut for us 6 years ago and bossed things against the Irish. Still, he's come on a lo these last couple of years and if that progression continues, he'll definitely be a good prem player for years to come. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 3, 2024 10:09:12 GMT
The move to RB Leipzig never made any sense. He was sent there as a CB when they already had Konate (Liverpool) & Upamecano (Bayern Munich) who were older, and already established in the 1st team. When he was called upon he did a fine job against Spurs in the Champions League quarter-final. On paper, the Sheffield United loan looked good, but they weren't the same team who had performed fairly well the season before. Even Virgil van Dijk would have struggled in that team, and they were shite all season, but Ampadu still managed to pick up a couple of MOTM awards. The two loans to Italy were very underwhelming and yet again he was surrounded by bang average players, but he did his best and somehow managed to shine in Serie A. The move to Leeds is his first "proper" club and finally he is among players who can actually play football, and he is one of their standout performers. The big test will be next season if Leeds manage to get promoted, but judging from last night's performance against Enzo & Caicedo, he shouldn't have too many problems adapting, and if all goes well I expect the 49ers backed team to be be very competitive after further player acquisitions. TLDR: Chelsea are a terrible choice for young players who are chasing the dream! Yeah I love Ampadu and think he's the best player of the lot. I thought he'd go to the top for a while, and yet while much of what you say is true (I wouldn't say he shined in Seria A and there were many poor performances alongside the decent ones for Sheff United), he's probably not quite at the level we all hoped when he made his debut for us 6 years ago and bossed things against the Irish. Still, he's come on a lo these last couple of years and if that progression continues, he'll definitely be a good prem player for years to come. Players in Ampadu's position tend to peak a bit later, around 28+. I think Ampadu's vast experience as a young player at club and international level means that by the time he's hitting that age he will be one of the better players in his position in the league |
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Post by manulike on Mar 6, 2024 20:47:08 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 22, 2024 20:12:20 GMT
Koumas by name, Koumas by nature! (Class from Rubin to set it up too!)
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Post by manulike on Mar 22, 2024 21:31:16 GMT
Great goal and nice move.
Not ou best performance, but we did improve a lot in the second half.
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Post by hooky on Mar 22, 2024 22:44:40 GMT
I said on the other chat - he has the exceptional gift of quick feet, which gives an attacking player such an edge. He could be an exceptional footballer if he develops his physicality and works hard
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 23, 2024 15:58:16 GMT
Don't want to get ahead of myself, but I do think a loan as soon as possible would be a great thing for him. Put him straight in at a good team in League Two and within a season or two he'll be pushing the seniors I reckon. He looks like he's got bags of talent
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Post by welshrover on Mar 23, 2024 20:08:46 GMT
Could end up with a bigger thread than his dad (albeit different forum nowadays)
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Post by manulike on Mar 23, 2024 20:15:35 GMT
Could end up with a bigger thread than his dad (albeit different forum nowadays) Would like to think that he will get at least as many pages as Paul Mullin ;-) |
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