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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 29, 2022 17:40:54 GMT
We have always had at least one decent striker through the years going all the way back to big John Charles , what we have coming through now that have the potential to reach top level is anyone's guess atm, our hopes are probably pinned on Brennan Johnson to keep improving, which is more than a possibility. Kieffer is certainly serviceable at this level, he will probably be a stop gap until another comes through. Popov lokoing the most likely, but don't write off Isaak Davies or an unknown coming through too |
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Post by cymruchris on Nov 29, 2022 20:26:02 GMT
Trick is not to decline like Iceland. They had their own golden run of QFs at euros and getting knocked out by one of the finalists and then did brilliantly to make the World cup and performed o.k but think they only got 1 point out of the 3 games so again parallels.
Remained competitive after but lost to Hungary in the play offs and were miles off it in the last qualifying group so that's the danger given they lost 3-4 of their experienced players and their key attacker became "unavailable."
That's probably the most obvious comparison to me but then for the smaller nations international football is just like club, it's ups and downs on regular basis.
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Post by cymruchris on Nov 29, 2022 20:28:18 GMT
Does Aaron Collins get a look in, next year in some friendlies? Been linked heavily with a move away next season or possibly January to the Chs'p. Yeah in amongst all this Mullin talk he seems the most obvious CF to have a look at. Stepped up well to league 1 but it's a decent leap to championship. Bodin was looking very good a few years back at Bristol Rovers but never really happened for him at Preston either side of a bad injury. Bradshaw was scoring loads at Walsall and would've made euro 2016 cut but for injury but again never been as prolific for Millwall. |
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Post by insertname on Nov 29, 2022 20:34:03 GMT
Does Aaron Collins get a look in, next year in some friendlies? Been linked heavily with a move away next season or possibly January to the Chs'p. Yeah in amongst all this Mullin talk he seems the most obvious CF to have a look at. Stepped up well to league 1 but it's a decent leap to championship. Bodin was looking very good a few years back at Bristol Rovers but never really happened for him at Preston either side of a bad injury. Bradshaw was scoring loads at Walsall and would've made euro 2016 cut but for injury but again never been as prolific for Millwall. Bradshaw has his best goals to games ratio in the championship earlier this year then got injured and he's never got close since. His time has passed. We need to give Mullin a try. |
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 29, 2022 20:38:30 GMT
Yeah in amongst all this Mullin talk he seems the most obvious CF to have a look at. Stepped up well to league 1 but it's a decent leap to championship. Bodin was looking very good a few years back at Bristol Rovers but never really happened for him at Preston either side of a bad injury. Bradshaw was scoring loads at Walsall and would've made euro 2016 cut but for injury but again never been as prolific for Millwall. Bradshaw has his best goals to games ratio in the championship earlier this year then got injured and he's never got close since. His time has passed. We need to give Mullin a try. Give Bradshaw and Mullin a go. We need more choice of proper out-and-out strikers, not trying to shoehorn wingers like DJ or Johnson up front and hope for the best. We also need to dump Rob Page. This is the second tournament his very limited tactical nature has been exposed at. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 29, 2022 20:51:25 GMT
Bradshaw has his best goals to games ratio in the championship earlier this year then got injured and he's never got close since. His time has passed. We need to give Mullin a try. Give Bradshaw and Mullin a go. We need more choice of proper out-and-out strikers, not trying to shoehorn wingers like DJ or Johnson up front and hope for the best. We also need to dump Rob Page. This is the second tournament his very limited tactical nature has been exposed at. First you have to create chances for your strikers, whoever they may be, and let's be honest, we just haven't done that. |
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 29, 2022 20:55:32 GMT
Give Bradshaw and Mullin a go. We need more choice of proper out-and-out strikers, not trying to shoehorn wingers like DJ or Johnson up front and hope for the best. We also need to dump Rob Page. This is the second tournament his very limited tactical nature has been exposed at. First you have to create chances for your strikers, whoever they may be, and let's be honest, we just haven't done that. Which is why I'd probably start Colwill, Johnson, Ampadu, Levitt and Lee Evans from now onwards. Maxwell needs introducing to give Ward competition, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 20:59:31 GMT
don't see no problem with giving colwill etc more time,the time has come,either they rise to it or they dont,whats the options,just grind the old players into the ground without anything coming through.sometimes you have to be brave even if it ends in defeat
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 21:04:33 GMT
one thing i liked about colwill is he had the thought to take a shot,yes it went over the bar but at least he saw the chance ,that is something,show's a presence of mind and confidence at least,we will need that going forward
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Post by jackanapes on Nov 29, 2022 21:06:24 GMT
I’m really not sure where we go from here. I actually think we have the raw materials to create a very competitive team without Bale and Ramsey. However, it’s fair to say that these last few performances have really shaken my confidence in Page’s ability to oversee that process. We look a mess defensively and seem totally unable to get the ball into dangerous areas for James and Johnson to attack. There seems to be little or no structure or purpose. What have they been working on in training?
Since we don’t sack managers the best we can hope for is that he brings in better assistants, but I can’t see that happening. The players look like strangers.
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Post by talyfan on Nov 29, 2022 21:20:21 GMT
I said all three games now but what's the structure, what our principles of play? We've not seen any of that. Both on and off the ball completely disjointed. We look open defensively and toothless going forward. A couple of passes between defence and midfield, and then an aimless long ball going to the opposition goalkeeper. Rinse and repeat. We are not being brave, we're not getting into dangerous of the pitch and we don't look a threat from set pieces - I don't where our goals would be coming from.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 29, 2022 21:23:01 GMT
We need to rebuild off the pitch as much as on it.
A top class assistant manager is paramount.
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Post by aberbeeg on Nov 29, 2022 21:23:13 GMT
New rebuild let’s start with the manager. Completely out thought every game, exposed for his very limited tactics,we have gone backwards at a rate of knots.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 21:26:07 GMT
it's because we can't pass the ball under pressure and have nobody showing and giving us options,until we learn that we will always be be beholden to a home game and the fans carrying us on,there is no subsitute to controlling the fucking ball and having players in space to receive it,it's basis football rules
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 21:31:04 GMT
when did we have a good passing move with ten or even five passes in this world cup? basic shit we can't or have forgotten to do,how can you get a foothold in a high quality game without it??
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 29, 2022 21:33:20 GMT
Osian Roberts anyone?
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Post by saturn9 on Nov 29, 2022 21:35:40 GMT
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Post by talyfan on Nov 29, 2022 21:35:56 GMT
What's Tony Pulis up to?  |
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Post by rushy on Nov 29, 2022 21:37:47 GMT
He's come a long way from Portmadoc, but he may be happy enough at Palace . |
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Post by rushy on Nov 29, 2022 21:40:20 GMT
What's Tony Pulis up to? He would certainly make us more solid, don't think he likes flair players much. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 21:42:27 GMT
might break a few legs,if you can't play like them ....
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 29, 2022 21:47:41 GMT
What's Tony Pulis up to? He would certainly make us more solid, don't think he likes flair players much. Don't think we have any of them anymore. There's some that think they are creative, I'm starting to think putting if on a plate for someone is creative, not flicking it into an area where the striker will still need to beat a man. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 29, 2022 21:50:29 GMT
He would certainly make us more solid, don't think he likes flair players much. Don't think we have any of them anymore. There's some that think they are creative, I'm starting to think putting if on a plate for someone is creative, not flicking it into an area where the striker will still need to beat a man. I realised after I'd posted we don't have any left !  Seriously though, questions have to be asked about the level of fitness within that squad as we were going down like flies at the end, that should also be on the agenda for the FA to discuss when they return and analyse the performances of Wales in the competition. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 21:52:12 GMT
First there was a funeral and
Then there was a trial
Hung me in a courtyard and
They let me hang up there a while
Let me hang up there a while
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Post by talyfan on Nov 29, 2022 21:52:53 GMT
He would certainly make us more solid, don't think he likes flair players much. Don't think we have any of them anymore. There's some that think they are creative, I'm starting to think putting if on a plate for someone is creative, not flicking it into an area where the striker will still need to beat a man. I'd agree with that assessment as well. Creative in an individual sense in that they can beat a player 1v1 but they're not able to bring others into the game either by making runs to draw players out, creating space or playing a key pass. |
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Post by cymruchris on Nov 29, 2022 21:59:30 GMT
Page is safe unless euros qualifying goes massively wrong. I agree with the majority he's limited tactically but ultimately under his watch he's guided side to knockout stages and qualification for World cup so he's delivered in the bread and butter aspects and possibly overachieved.
Would probably wait until Nathan Jones gets sacked by Southampton as I think he'd have makings of a decent Wales manager eventually. Steve Cooper would be bookmakers favourite but he's more than done enough in last three years to keep getting decent jobs after Forest so don't see him being realistic at any point in near future.
The key for next cycle is try to rebuild central midfield efficiently. Just crossing fingers and continually starting Allen and Ramsey isn't going to work imo.
One thing I liked about Giggs when he took over is he immediately decided he wasn't going to phase out pretty much all of the backline and he put in Mepham, Rodon, Ampadu, Roberts quicker than Cookie would've done if he'd stayed on for 2020 qualifiers.
Now the same needs to happen in the midfield area although probably isn't quite as much quality there to what it needs to replace.
Brooks coming back would be massive, hopefully he'll be fit enough at some point this season to return for Bournemouth and can look to bring him back in September round of games.
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Post by playslikeiniesta on Nov 29, 2022 22:08:46 GMT
1 win in our last 11 games.
6 defeats in our last 7 games.
1 goal scored from the penalty spot in 3 WC games.
Anyone else worried about the direction we are currently heading in? What can we change to start scoring more goals and turn our fortunes around?
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Post by saturn9 on Nov 29, 2022 22:11:56 GMT
If not Bellers/Osian, bring in a half decent Continental coach.
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Post by Y Fenni on Nov 29, 2022 22:12:59 GMT
1 win in our last 11 games. 6 defeats in our last 7 games. 1 goal scored from the penalty spot in 3 WC games. Anyone else worried about the direction we are currently heading in? What can we change to start scoring more goals and turn our fortunes around? We badly need a winnable game. Promotion to Nations League A was great but it means we've been playing sides that are honestly way above our level for a long time now, mixed in with some all-or-nothing play-offs and tournament games. We've had no chance to try anything different or to get the confidence that a win gives a team. Sadly it's Croatia away up first, but after that we really need to win some games so that this group can actually remember what winning feels like. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Nov 29, 2022 22:19:28 GMT
Page has just about got away with things up until the this tournament. Unfortunately he’s been badly exposed for his lack of tactical nous ( same as he was in the last Euros) . Going forward we badly need a tactical guy on board cos our 3 stooge’s looked like rabbit in headlights
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