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Post by alarch on Apr 26, 2012 22:53:09 GMT
It seems a bit disrespectful to not even spell his name correctly. Too hurried - not disrespectful. Corrected now. |
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Post by alarch on Apr 26, 2012 22:55:52 GMT
Ash played for Swans a couple of times as holding mid - and did OK. So it was an understandable experiment - which didn't work out. It's not fair to crucify someone for one error, especially where the options are limited.
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Post by tintedaudio on Apr 27, 2012 7:44:40 GMT
The thing that anoyed me most about Flynn was the "oh, it doesn't matter if bellamy isn't playing" attitude, he got walked over in his first game with the seniors and seemed to think we had the backup to deal with it, this was his down fall. You need to make players embarressed not to play, not act like its not even an issue
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 11:04:59 GMT
Sad news and quite suprising. Good luck to Brian, he totally transformed youth football for us and turned a laughing stock at 21 level into a top ranked team. I watched us beat France 4-2 at Ninian Park with a couple of hundred of fans watching in the rain. The end of that campaign we sold out the same ground to play England in the play offs. We lost that night but I've never been so proud of a bunch of top players who gave everything that night. The 21s were a saving grace in some of the darker days of Tosh. They still have two important games left and are currently in 2nd place in the group and still in with a shout of play off spot. They will need to appoint someone quick. Agreed with all that WW! Kit Symons to replace him? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 11:36:59 GMT
I saw enough in his two games and his handling of the Bellamy omission to be happy that he was passed over. I'll admit that Flynn's contribution to Wales and Welsh football in general [with the Swans in mind] has been absolutely superb the last thirty to thirty five years but I agree with this. He let Dave Jones bully him and was deluded enough to believe that Wales COULD actually cope without him and then what do you know? Wales miss Bellamy's attacking threat and presence and lose two matches, Flynn's opportunity of getting the gig is gone and then to add to Flynn's woes, Bellars plays and scores for Cardiff away to Barnsley on the Saturday. www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/07/walesfootballteam-euro2012ffwtbol.wordpress.com/2010/10/03/the-bellamy-question/ |
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Post by llannerch on Apr 27, 2012 12:47:07 GMT
Scotland? He was def used in this role by tosh. Someone help me out here... Fair enough. I missed that game having had a knee operation a couple of days before. Alarch is right as well, it isn't worth crucifying him for it but he was out of his depth (as others on here believe too). His work at Wrexham was astonishing, far more so than that at Swansea. He deserved to be given a chance at, certainly, a Championship level club but for whatever reason that never happened. His work at age grade for Wale shas been excellent but the structure allowed him to achieve this. And for that Toshack ought to take as much as credit. Any step to appoint different coaches at age grade level would be extremely retrograde. We don't have the resources and playing numbers to set the u17s vs u19s vs u21s |
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Post by llannerch on Apr 27, 2012 12:49:50 GMT
I also agree with WW.
I think Kit will have some input. Hans't he had a youth role at both Fulham and Palace? Newaddingtonwelsh ought to be able to shed some light on it....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 16:10:18 GMT
Very very sad, he's done absolutely terrific for our youth football. Who will replace him?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 16:10:57 GMT
Wanted him as Wales manager after Tosh, think judging him after 2 games not fair at all:( Brian Flynn<3<3<3
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 16:36:33 GMT
and to be honest, it doesn't matter if bellamy doesn't play, we're a team. Losing one man i don't give a shite to be honest, we've done well in the past without bellamy, Scotland 3-0 and played class at Wembley 1-0, we're gonna lose him soon eventually, Mr.Flynn should have gotten the job. Well, Toshack should have had the two Swiss and Bulgaria games as he requested before the FAW made a decision to get rid or not, i like tosh, he was quite unlucky with injuries against montenegro. Then if things didn't work out, Flynn should have stepped in and taken charge from after the Bulgaria game on.  |
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Post by stu on Apr 27, 2012 17:04:15 GMT
Its not just the U21's!!!! U17's and 19's as well. He did a good job, not a great job with the U21's and none of his age groups EVER qualified!!!! Elite stages but not one single tourament. I believe Brian Flynn could not take Wales that final step. It's far harder to qualify for the youth tournaments than it is for the seniors. I used the U21s as an example. Only 8 teams qualify, 1 of which is the host. If the same criteria was used we'd have qualified twice. Once as outright winners instead of playing off against ingurlund and the last time as second in our group. Incidentally the last time we actually finished above Italy but lost out on AWAY goals. We beat them 2-1 they beat us 1-0. If it was seniors he'd have qualified us twice and we'd be building statues for the guy. |
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Post by evans1282 on Apr 27, 2012 19:11:29 GMT
I really am gutted,didn't think anything else could possibly fuck us up this year .We lose our manager ,we appoint a fuckwit, our golden generation fall over themselves to wrap themselves in the union flag and now this.Jesus its fucking hard to see the light sometimes.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Apr 27, 2012 19:35:35 GMT
Sad news and quite suprising. Good luck to Brian, he totally transformed youth football for us and turned a laughing stock at 21 level into a top ranked team. I watched us beat France 4-2 at Ninian Park with a couple of hundred of fans watching in the rain. The end of that campaign we sold out the same ground to play England in the play offs. We lost that night but I've never been so proud of a bunch of top players who gave everything that night. The 21s were a saving grace in some of the darker days of Tosh. They still have two important games left and are currently in 2nd place in the group and still in with a shout of play off spot. They will need to appoint someone quick. Agreed with all that WW! Kit Symons to replace him? Walsh mentions here that he doesnt think Symons will be involved at 21 level Like Walsh also suggests perhaps its Flynn's decision to leave. Although I cant really see it myself it may be for personal or health reasons. Although we obviously hope its not the latter. Think if Coleman did make the call then the next manager has certainly got a tough act to follow bearing in mind the state of the team under Jimmy Shoulder and the team as it is regarded now. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Apr 27, 2012 19:54:39 GMT
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Post by scoop76 on Apr 27, 2012 20:17:42 GMT
Cheers Flynny the last few years watching the 21s and also seeing the development of the 19s, 17s has been awesome. agreed. 4-3 in Sweden, 4-2 v France, 3-0 in Romania, 2-2 v England, 4-1 v Hungary, 2-1 v Italy. Fantastic matches all of them. So close to two U21 finals - and with many of our leading U21 players - Hennessey, Bale and Ledley for Euro 2009 - missing because they were in the senior squad. |
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Post by abwales on Apr 27, 2012 23:15:55 GMT
We could be looking forward to our first major tournament if we managed to beat Bulgaria at home when he was in charge!! I know that's easy to say now but just bloody imagine it!!
But still, with that said, he's been great for Welsh football, looking forward to seeing who they'll appoint, hopefully not someone as uninspiring as Coleman.
Thanks flynno
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Post by idiot on Apr 28, 2012 0:10:04 GMT
flynn doesnt get a new contract,pep guardiola packs barcelona in
coincidence??? i think not
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Post by idiot on Apr 28, 2012 0:12:56 GMT
*warm applause*
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Post by stu on Apr 28, 2012 8:21:15 GMT
Flynn was commentating on the radio the other day. Maybe he wants an easier life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 12:07:29 GMT
You lot are *almost* as bad as the jury in Ched's case for jumping to conclusions.
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Post by njdragon on Apr 28, 2012 16:31:23 GMT
You lot are *almost* as bad as the jury in Ched's case for jumping to conclusions. I think if it was flynns decision to leave, the FAW would have made that clear from the start for PR reasons. |
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Post by stu on Apr 29, 2012 7:26:58 GMT
Since when did the FAW ever give a toss about what the fans think?
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Post by llannerch on Apr 30, 2012 20:55:40 GMT
Since when did the FAW ever give a toss about what the fans think? I think that's a tad unfair |
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Post by Tim P on Apr 30, 2012 21:01:04 GMT
The FAW appointed Speed... how many of us were behind that?
Wasn't Flynn on the way out under Speed?
I think there's more here. If anything, I think the FAW are probably being quite respectful by keeping it under wraps.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 21:28:27 GMT
Since when did the FAW ever give a toss about what the fans think? I think that's a tad unfair Thats more than fair after the reports of the FAW councillor scoffing in the face of a fan when he expressed doubts that he would receive ticket his ticket for the England match on time. Add on to that the membership system that is designed simply to milk as much bunce out of the fans as they can. The FAW don't give a fuck about the fans. That being said I am still waiting for evidence on this one before pointing the finger at them and Coleman |
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Post by njdragon on May 1, 2012 8:29:33 GMT
I think there's more here. If anything, I think the FAW are probably being quite respectful by keeping it under wraps. Sorry, respectful to who exactly? Its not the fans and it's not Flynn |
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Post by yrarglwyddlucan on May 1, 2012 10:38:28 GMT
It's kind to Flynn who sould have been sacked the instant he responded to Dave Jones' summons in 2010. Not just sacked but put in a straitjacket and carted off by men in white coats. He screwed up the senior team in two qualification matches and, apparently, still didn't understand what he'd done. Since then he's behaved like an employee disgruntled at being passed over. He fell out with Speed, which must have taken some doing. It's also clear that he's fallen out with Coleman who spoke of the management of the under-21 team with the same snarl as he used when speaking of Dutch Ray. Managers have a sack -by-date and Flynn reached his eighteen months ago. He had a satisfying job and was given the opportunity for his dream job but displayed his inadequacy. He deserves conventional words of thanks and the boot.
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Post by njdragon on May 1, 2012 11:00:32 GMT
I don't care about any of that, all i care about is the results and the players he's brought through at under 21 level.
He should be judged on that alone, as that was the job
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Post by njdragon on Jun 19, 2012 19:17:36 GMT
A few months down the line, can anyone shed any light on this utterly ridiculous decision to not offer flynn another contract?
If not, why aren't the welsh media asking questions?
Is this just another shocking decision from the clowns at the FAW?
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Post by Tim P on Jun 19, 2012 19:27:29 GMT
I believe the decision is based on the same reasons that Gary Speed wanted him sacked for.
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