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Post by robin1864 on Aug 24, 2018 14:14:20 GMT
Why are we still talking about this Geordie? He got his selfie with Bale and Rambo a couple of years ago and now he wants no part of the action. He can come crawling back to us if he wants to play international football again. Bit harsh this. He's left footed, starts in the premier league, has time on his side and Giggs reached out to him. We can ill afford to cut ties with premier league starters down to pride and stubborness. What has he actually done that can make you so adamant we should not include him ever again? As others have stated, he turned us down when we needed him so he could focus on Newcastle. I don't want players like that mixing with the likes of Bale and Gunter. Being "good enough" for international football is just as much mentality as it is ability, so this Geordie Koumas can fuck off if he thinks he's getting a slice of the pie again now that he's "Premier League" and all is well in his world. |
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 24, 2018 14:38:38 GMT
Bit harsh this. He's left footed, starts in the premier league, has time on his side and Giggs reached out to him. We can ill afford to cut ties with premier league starters down to pride and stubborness. What has he actually done that can make you so adamant we should not include him ever again? As others have stated, he turned us down when we needed him so he could focus on Newcastle. I don't want players like that mixing with the likes of Bale and Gunter. B eing "good enough" for international football is just as much mentality as it is ability, so this Geordie Koumas can fuck off if he thinks he's getting a slice of the pie again now that he's "Premier League" and all is well in his world. As they can 'will' themselves to go beyond their ability, we may as well start playing League 1, 2 and conference players again then in that case. Plus they will turn up every single game. Some players are just simply not good enough to play for us, even with all the mental will in the world. |
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 24, 2018 21:59:46 GMT
As others have stated, he turned us down when we needed him so he could focus on Newcastle. I don't want players like that mixing with the likes of Bale and Gunter. B eing "good enough" for international football is just as much mentality as it is ability, so this Geordie Koumas can fuck off if he thinks he's getting a slice of the pie again now that he's "Premier League" and all is well in his world. As they can 'will' themselves to go beyond their ability, we may as well start playing League 1, 2 and conference players again then in that case. Plus they will turn up every single game. Some players are just simply not good enough to play for us, even with all the mental will in the world. I'm not saying pick League 2 players, I'm saying pick players who are good enough both mentally and ability-wise - Neil Taylor for instance, he's a decent left back playing at a decent level, who understands international football isn't something you do when you feel like it. Dummett might have the ability, but his head will always firmly be in Newcastle and we're going to have to accept being second fiddle to that. Given the fact he's flaked on us before, I wouldn't put it past him to do it to us again, so would rather we didn't build a reliance upon him. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 25, 2018 10:32:32 GMT
As they can 'will' themselves to go beyond their ability, we may as well start playing League 1, 2 and conference players again then in that case. Plus they will turn up every single game. Some players are just simply not good enough to play for us, even with all the mental will in the world. I'm not saying pick League 2 players, I'm saying pick players who are good enough both mentally and ability-wise - Neil Taylor for instance, he's a decent left back playing at a decent level, who understands international football isn't something you do when you feel like it. Dummett might have the ability, but his head will always firmly be in Newcastle and we're going to have to accept being second fiddle to that. Given the fact he's flaked on us before, I wouldn't put it past him to do it to us again, so would rather we didn't build a reliance upon him. Why not give him this opportunity to show his loyalty to Wales, now there are no reasons for him not to in his eyes. If he rejects in the future be done with him then. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Aug 25, 2018 11:14:42 GMT
I'm not saying pick League 2 players, I'm saying pick players who are good enough both mentally and ability-wise - Neil Taylor for instance, he's a decent left back playing at a decent level, who understands international football isn't something you do when you feel like it. Dummett might have the ability, but his head will always firmly be in Newcastle and we're going to have to accept being second fiddle to that. Given the fact he's flaked on us before, I wouldn't put it past him to do it to us again, so would rather we didn't build a reliance upon him. Why not give him this opportunity to show his loyalty to Wales, now there are no reasons for him not to in his eyes. If he rejects in the future be done with him then. This is my stance. He states an issue with Coleman, so in my eyes this is final chance. Take his opportunity with both hands or not consider us again. |
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Post by iot on Aug 25, 2018 14:53:54 GMT
I'm not saying pick League 2 players, I'm saying pick players who are good enough both mentally and ability-wise - Neil Taylor for instance, he's a decent left back playing at a decent level, who understands international football isn't something you do when you feel like it. Dummett might have the ability, but his head will always firmly be in Newcastle and we're going to have to accept being second fiddle to that. Given the fact he's flaked on us before, I wouldn't put it past him to do it to us again, so would rather we didn't build a reliance upon him. Why not give him this opportunity to show his loyalty to Wales, now there are no reasons for him not to in his eyes. If he rejects in the future be done with him then. The best way for him to show his loyalty were if he were content with a place on the bench over the next few games. If he can do that without throwing a strop, then that would go a long way |
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 25, 2018 15:13:08 GMT
Yes one more chance for me and then if he does it again then we cut ties.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 26, 2018 10:10:49 GMT
Dummett to be in the squad, start the ROI game, score the opening goal, gets fouled by McClean who gets sent off.
There, I've called it.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 26, 2018 15:57:01 GMT
Watching Dummett against Chelsea and he's certainly a solid defender. I think he would be a handy centre half for us, as he is doing most of his defending in narrow areas for Newcastle today. When he has gone forward in this half he has put in 2 excellent crosses.
Him and Davies are now our only defenders playing regular Premier League football. My back 5 vs Ireland would be; Roberts, Chester, Mepham, Dummett, Davies. Although I can see Giggs showing loyalty to Williams for these upcoming games.
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Post by zenith on Aug 26, 2018 16:13:12 GMT
Watching Dummett against Chelsea and he's certainly a solid defender. I think he would be a handy centre half for us, as he is doing most of his defending in narrow areas for Newcastle today. When he has gone forward in this half he has put in 2 excellent crosses. Him and Davies are now our only defenders playing regular Premier League football. My back 5 vs Ireland would be; Roberts, Chester, Mepham, Dummett, Davies. Although I can see Giggs showing loyalty to Williams for these upcoming games. To be honest, I don’t think he will go for a back 5 v Ireland, especially if Brooks and Lawrence are fit, he will want to be playing them both with Bale |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 26, 2018 16:54:44 GMT
Watching Dummett against Chelsea and he's certainly a solid defender. I think he would be a handy centre half for us, as he is doing most of his defending in narrow areas for Newcastle today. When he has gone forward in this half he has put in 2 excellent crosses. Him and Davies are now our only defenders playing regular Premier League football. My back 5 vs Ireland would be; Roberts, Chester, Mepham, Dummett, Davies. Although I can see Giggs showing loyalty to Williams for these upcoming games. To be honest, I don’t think he will go for a back 5 v Ireland, especially if Brooks and Lawrence are fit, he will want to be playing them both with Bale I hope you are right. This is what I'd like to see. |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 26, 2018 20:08:26 GMT
Roberts, Chester, Williams, Dummett, Davies would be my back 5 if we were to go that way.
Ramsey, Allen, Brooks, Bale, Lawrence in front of them could be very dangerous.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 27, 2018 10:09:50 GMT
I'd rather see a youngster (e.g. Rodon) who's committed to Wales rather than a Geordie chancer in the squad.
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 7, 2018 14:40:09 GMT
Capped last night so unable to change nationality in the future. If we can get the Paul Dummett who plays for Newcastle turning up then we will have a solid full back.
I’ve been a critic of his because of his previous dubious commitment (never questioned his ability) but still disappointed to hear boo’s last night when he was brought on as a sub.
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Post by dai on Sept 7, 2018 14:51:47 GMT
Capped last night so unable to change nationality in the future. If we can get the Paul Dummett who plays for Newcastle turning up then we will have a solid full back. I’ve been a critic of his because of his previous dubious commitment (never questioned his ability) but still disappointed to hear boo’s last night when he was brought on as a sub.So there were a few boo's? I was in the Ninian and heard something beneath the cheering. A bit pathetic and uncalled for, especially under he circumstances. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 7, 2018 17:32:14 GMT
If people boo'd Dummett when he come on that is disappointing.
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Post by iantov on Sept 7, 2018 18:09:41 GMT
Maybe Giggsy should make a reference to the booing of Dummet in his next press conference and try to put a lid on it.
No need, grow up, move on.
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Post by iot on Sept 7, 2018 20:22:43 GMT
Agreed. I've been disappointed with his attitude in the past, but booing is pointless and uncalled for - it only serves to create negative vibes around the ground
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 7, 2018 20:35:56 GMT
Not saying this is the reason for the booing, but as the board went up the word around the Canton end is that Gunter was coming on as there was a huge cheer.
Maybe the boos were for the fact that the opportunity to keep Gunters record going was lost.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 7, 2018 22:13:25 GMT
Capped last night so unable to change nationality in the future. If we can get the Paul Dummett who plays for Newcastle turning up then we will have a solid full back. I’ve been a critic of his because of his previous dubious commitment (never questioned his ability) but still disappointed to hear boo’s last night when he was brought on as a sub. Must say, I didn't hear any booing. |
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Post by zenith on Sept 7, 2018 22:20:20 GMT
To be honest, I don’t think he will go for a back 5 v Ireland, especially if Brooks and Lawrence are fit, he will want to be playing them both with Bale I hope you are right. This is what I'd like to see. I was right and what a night it was! |
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Post by majorraglan on Sept 7, 2018 23:05:42 GMT
Capped last night so unable to change nationality in the future. If we can get the Paul Dummett who plays for Newcastle turning up then we will have a solid full back. I’ve been a critic of his because of his previous dubious commitment (never questioned his ability) but still disappointed to hear boo’s last night when he was brought on as a sub. Must say, I didn't hear any booing. Was sitting in the Ninan Stand and didn’t hear any booing. If there was booing, then it’s a poor show. |
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Post by zenith on Sept 8, 2018 1:13:54 GMT
I heard booing, thought it was crass.
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Post by mortillsy on Sept 8, 2018 6:26:50 GMT
I heard booing, thought it was crass. Yes, I also heard booing. I was stood in the Canton ... made me cringe! |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 8, 2018 11:37:49 GMT
His choice has been made now, he's committed to Wales. If he sulks again then his international career is over.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 10, 2018 14:06:30 GMT
Maybe Giggsy should make a reference to the booing of Dummet in his next press conference and try to put a lid on it. No need, grow up, move on. Booing your own players is embarrassing. |
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Post by majorraglan on Sept 10, 2018 21:08:24 GMT
His choice has been made now, he's committed to Wales. If he sulks again then his international career is over. Heard him on the radio, he was careful with what he said but I had the impression it was a personal beef with Coleman. He’s made his choice, let’s support him and hope he can play a part in a successful Welsh team which makes in to the Euros in 2020. |
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Post by zenith on Sept 10, 2018 21:36:23 GMT
He will get game time for us as Ash seems to start playing less and less.
Could see a back three of Mepham, Chester and Dummett, with Roberts and Davies as wing backs.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 11, 2018 6:41:12 GMT
It's bad enough calling Dummett 'dumnuts' and slating Giggs before a ball's even been kicked but PLEASE don't take it to the matches, it's poisonous and divisive. The Giggs songs may have been in jest but the players certainly do not want to hear it.
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Post by welshiron on Jan 31, 2019 13:22:15 GMT
Not looking good for our Geordie.
Benitez has signed a left back and said he had been looking to strengthen the position for a while.
The player will give more quality in the final third he added.
What now for Dummett, a spell on the bench at best
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