Andy King

[iot]

Comparing him to Leldley is an insult to ledley to be frank. Ledley was a great servant for us and performed a really important, non flashy role. He was an unsung hero. King just didn't do anything. There are some players who do a lot of important work that goes unnoticed, and others who go unnoticed because they don't do any important work. Ledley was the former, King was the latter.

I get the impression that you think, because neither Ledley nor King got much attention, they both played an important, diligent role. That's a misunderstanding. I repeat, King simply just didn't do anything. He offered very little protection (whereas Ledley was crucial in that regard) and offered very little going forward too.

[cadno]

Jun 23, 2021 21:55:52 GMT iot said:

Comparing him to Leldley is an insult to ledley to be frank. Ledley was a great servant for us and performed a really important, non flashy role. He was an unsung hero. King just didn't do anything. There are some players who do a lot of important work that goes unnoticed, and others who go unnoticed because they don't do any important work. Ledley was the former, King was the latter.

I get the impression that you think, because neither Ledley nor King got much attention, they both played an important, diligent role. That's a misunderstanding. I repeat, King simply just didn't do anything. He offered very little protection (whereas Ledley was crucial in that regard) and offered very little going forward too.

I didn't say King was better than Ledley, but if you go back to some important qualifiers it's absolutely fair to say King could do a similar job and play an important role :-)

Cyrpus away springs to mind, we were without Allen and Ledley, in stepped Andy King and Dave Edwards and they were absolute soldiers in very hot weather, they were solid in front of our defence and kept us in the game. Bosnia 0-0 Andy King full 90, solid performance no Joe Allen.

It's a much bigger insult to say King has done nothing for Wales when in actual fact he made a huge contribution to helping us qualify for our first tournament since 1958.

Selective memory 👍

[welshrover]

I'm amazed he is only 32, he seems to have been 32 for the last ten years!!

[dai]

I have a lot of time for King, because he hasn't retired like many other Welsh players do after passing 30.

[iot]

Jun 23, 2021 22:13:50 GMT cadno said:

Jun 23, 2021 21:55:52 GMT iot said:

Comparing him to Leldley is an insult to ledley to be frank. Ledley was a great servant for us and performed a really important, non flashy role. He was an unsung hero. King just didn't do anything. There are some players who do a lot of important work that goes unnoticed, and others who go unnoticed because they don't do any important work. Ledley was the former, King was the latter.

I get the impression that you think, because neither Ledley nor King got much attention, they both played an important, diligent role. That's a misunderstanding. I repeat, King simply just didn't do anything. He offered very little protection (whereas Ledley was crucial in that regard) and offered very little going forward too.

I didn't say King was better than Ledley, but if you go back to some important qualifiers it's absolutely fair to say King could do a similar job and play an important role :-)

Cyrpus away springs to mind, we were without Allen and Ledley, in stepped Andy King and Dave Edwards and they were absolute soldiers in very hot weather, they were solid in front of our defence and kept us in the game. Bosnia 0-0 Andy King full 90, solid performance no Joe Allen.

It's a much bigger insult to say King has done nothing for Wales when in actual fact he made a huge contribution to helping us qualify for our first tournament since 1958.

Selective memory 👍

The two Cyprus games are good examples of where he let us down. Our poor performance away in Cyprus was largely because our midfield wasn't up to it. And we all know what happened in the home game - that could have cost us qualification!

[cadno]

Jun 24, 2021 6:46:09 GMT iot said:

Jun 23, 2021 22:13:50 GMT cadno said:

I didn't say King was better than Ledley, but if you go back to some important qualifiers it's absolutely fair to say King could do a similar job and play an important role :-)

Cyrpus away springs to mind, we were without Allen and Ledley, in stepped Andy King and Dave Edwards and they were absolute soldiers in very hot weather, they were solid in front of our defence and kept us in the game. Bosnia 0-0 Andy King full 90, solid performance no Joe Allen.

It's a much bigger insult to say King has done nothing for Wales when in actual fact he made a huge contribution to helping us qualify for our first tournament since 1958.

Selective memory 👍

The two Cyprus games are good examples of where he let us down. Our poor performance away in Cyprus was largely because our midfield wasn't up to it. And we all know what happened in the home game - that could have cost us qualification!

Let us down in the away leg? Come on mun! We knew before going into that game it was going to be very difficult, Cyprus were still chasing a play off spot and weren't that many points behind us, we were without 2 of our top CM in Ledley and Allen but king and edwards (more attacking mids instinctively) stepped in, followed the instructions and played well, Ramsey and Jazz Richards stood out though.
I have nothing to say about the Cyprus home game 🤣 only that King was playing well before the silly challenge!

[CrackityJones]

Andy has joined Bristol City. Cadno incoming in 5,4,3….

[cadno]

...2...1 ... Yes!! Great move, good timing before our WC qualifiers!!

[cadno]

Another 90 minutes and a goal today. Playing well.

[manulike]

Aug 14, 2021 16:41:26 GMT cadno said:

Another 90 minutes and a goal today. Playing well.

Someone grab his passport and get him a Russian visa ;-P

[cadno]

Good option for the 'Joe Ledley role' , call him up!

[allezlesrouges]

I mean if he's a regular in the Championship and in good form, I see no reason not to call him up at present

[cadno]

Even if Page goes for Smith or Morrell alongside Allen, Andy King would be so useful to come on and see a game out.

[hooky]

Morrell is not good enough

King ahead of him if fit.

Smith should get far more credit. The guy has gone out on loan to get experience abroad and domestically. He usually gets in the teams of the clubs he joins. He is never going to be Rice but he is arguably a better bet than Levitt or Morrell right now. Lets hope Levitt emerges - he on paper has more creativity to his game but he needs to impact the game if he is to emerge ahead of Smith.

[cadno]

Excellent clearance off the line yesterday vs Cardiff.

Continuing his good start to the season, if only he was under 25 then he'd be in the Wales squad!

[iot]

Interested in Cardiff fans' thoughts on how he did? Did you notice him on the pitch?

[dai]

Aug 29, 2021 10:21:33 GMT cadno said:

Excellent clearance off the line yesterday vs Cardiff.

Continuing his good start to the season, if only he was under 25 then he'd be in the Wales squad!

Should be in the squad ahead of a few players. But I guess it makes more sense to choose players from League 1 and the SPL over an experienced ex PL and Championship player..........

[bolter]

Aug 29, 2021 10:21:33 GMT cadno said:

Excellent clearance off the line yesterday vs Cardiff.

Continuing his good start to the season, if only he was under 25 then he'd be in the Wales squad!

streamable.com/q8sdut - Awesome (unless you're Cardiff, I guess!)

[cymroircarn]

Aug 29, 2021 10:37:26 GMT iot said:

Interested in Cardiff fans' thoughts on how he did? Did you notice him on the pitch?

Not really. Came off after about an hour.

[iot]

Aug 29, 2021 20:23:16 GMT cymroircarn said:

Aug 29, 2021 10:37:26 GMT iot said:

Interested in Cardiff fans' thoughts on how he did? Did you notice him on the pitch?

Not really. Came off after about an hour.

I'm shocked.

[fiveattheback]

Aug 29, 2021 10:37:26 GMT iot said:

Interested in Cardiff fans' thoughts on how he did? Did you notice him on the pitch?

Not until he went off

[cadno]

Full 90 for Bristol City yday, MOTM for a lot of their fans...

Sounds like he started off in midfield then had to fill in as an emergency CB, and did well!

"I would say MOTM tonight, did a great job in both positions."

"Definitely one of our better performers tonight."

"Solid performance from King last night I thought - his experience shone through….."

[talyfan]

cadno will love this is much as I will.

Andy King playing centre half today for Bristol City!

[cadno]

His fitness levels are second to none, good size on him. A lot complained about him not doing enough or being adventurous enough, but he’s the kind of soldier every team needs. I would deffo be looking at bringing him back in if I was Page, especially if he’s able to convert himself into a centre back! Great news

[marsvolta]

I rate him as a player but I can’t help thinking that if Andy King was still being selected he’d be lumped in with Gunter and Williams as being ‘selected only on loyalty and part of a closed shop based on sentiment after Euro 2016’

[manulike]

Andy had a full 90' on Monday and is back again this lunchtime in the starting 11.

Could the departure of Joe pave the way back for Andy into the Cymru set-up? Especially if Rambo is still a doubt?

EDIT

Very close to scoring after 8' with a late run into the box.

Gets an assist for a really spectacular goal from the other Andrew. Can't fault Maxwell on that one, or the second goal either!

Andy played well and came off after 80' at 2-0. Played a very disciplined 8 position and his only bursts into the box were mainly from dead-balls.

Great to see a young and energetic 34 year-old!

[talyfan]

Omar Taylor Clark that came on for him is Welsh too. Young lad from Newport. Central midfielder too I think?

[cadno]

I’d have him in the squad, considering our lack of depth in midfield

[jimexotic]

It's harsh but I associate Andy King with games where we've looked ordinary or less than ordinary, I think Johnny Williams offers more than him. I'm glad he's playing and playing well, I just don't think he has anything to offer us but I'd absolutely love to be proven wrong.

[cadno]

His positioning is second to none, does all the basics very well, super high fitness levels. Not a flash player but you need soldiers in a side as well as the magic men, I’d happily see him come on for Morrell for the last 15 minutes if needed for example