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Post by zenith on Dec 17, 2017 18:16:41 GMT
Danny Ward and Ben Woodburn both wanted by Cookie but reports saying they are staying put. I'm sure that'll change in 6 weeks time.
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 17, 2017 18:57:01 GMT
A loan to Sunderland would be beneficial to both Ward and Woodburn, surely Liverpool have to see that its more beneficial than U23s football?
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Post by larslagerback on Dec 19, 2017 13:19:21 GMT
A loan to Sunderland would be beneficial to both Ward and Woodburn, surely Liverpool have to see that its more beneficial than U23s football? A bit of a backward step for Ward after last season but better than reserve football. Klopp won't let him go though and will use him in the FA cup until Liverpool crash out in the 4th round. Still can't believe he didn't allow him on loan to Huddersfield. Woodburn might be allowed to go. We'll see. |
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Post by richierich333 on Dec 19, 2017 14:00:28 GMT
Does anyone know why Ward does not want to go? It's a loan move so even if they do get relegated It will be a learning curve and surely he will be kept busy!
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 19, 2017 18:34:23 GMT
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Post by saints19 on Dec 19, 2017 20:04:18 GMT
"However, Woodburn won’t be joined by Welsh compatriot Danny Ward who rejected a move to the Stadium of Light"
Ouch! Cookie gets a glass of milk to the face. Once he commanded their loyalty as the national boss....now they're presumably apologising for turning him down....
In all seriousness, it would have been a decent move in my view. He'd have got a lot of shot stopping practice.
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Post by larslagerback on Dec 19, 2017 22:38:22 GMT
Does anyone know why Ward does not want to go? It's a loan move so even if they do get relegated It will be a learning curve and surely he will be kept busy! Probably fancies himself against Mingolet and Karius. And why not? Or believes he's good enough for a top Championship or a Premiership team, which is fair enough. |
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Post by zenith on Dec 21, 2017 1:28:40 GMT
Leeds apparently leading the line for Woodburn atm
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 1, 2018 14:04:37 GMT
Happy new year everyone.
Woodburn makes the bench for Liverpool today.
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Post by richierich333 on Jan 2, 2018 8:12:54 GMT
Does anyone know why Ward does not want to go? It's a loan move so even if they do get relegated It will be a learning curve and surely he will be kept busy! Probably fancies himself against Mingolet and Karius. And why not? Or believes he's good enough for a top Championship or a Premiership team, which is fair enough. Unfortunately Klopp doesn't which is the most important thing. |
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Post by larslagerback on Jan 2, 2018 10:02:29 GMT
Probably fancies himself against Mingolet and Karius. And why not? Or believes he's good enough for a top Championship or a Premiership team, which is fair enough. Unfortunately Klopp doesn't which is the most important thing. He might play Friday night. I've no idea why Klopp didn't let him go to Huddersfield this season though. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 2, 2018 10:39:27 GMT
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Post by richierich333 on Jan 2, 2018 10:43:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 9:57:19 GMT
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jan 5, 2018 10:37:31 GMT
The sources are the Express and the Mirror (take it with a pinch of salt) |
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Post by manulike on Jan 5, 2018 12:56:39 GMT
The move make good sense, and the lad will be taken care of and used on a regular basis.
Whether or not Klopp can afford to let him go, while also losing Coutinho et el, is another matter
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 5, 2018 13:24:23 GMT
Probably meant loan listed but nobody could be arsed to proof read the articles |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 5, 2018 19:07:45 GMT
Doesn’t even make the bench tonight. A sure sign he’s off soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:59:00 GMT
To avoid being cup tied elsewhere? How long before the cameras show opposite fans French kissing?
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 17, 2018 14:34:48 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 17, 2018 16:16:30 GMT
Liverpool are sending players on loan all over the shop but I'd rather Ben go somewhere other than Sunderland after watching their shit show against Cardiff. Zero attacking intent and not one shot on target, what's he going to learn there?
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 17, 2018 16:23:16 GMT
Should have sent Ben down to Cardiff in the car with Grujic earlier, could have squeezed in Ward while they were at it too
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 18, 2018 12:16:25 GMT
Looks like the move to Sunderland (or anywhere else) is off...Sky reporting:
SUNDERLAND’S WOODBURN BID FAILS
Sunderland have failed in an attempt to sign Liverpool winger Ben Woodburn on-loan, Sky Sports News understands.
Chris Coleman was keen to borrow his compatriot until the summer but Jurgen Klopp needs him following the sale of Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona.
As a result, Woodburn will remain at Anfield unless Liverpool are able to bring in further signings in the forward area.
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Post by JC on Jan 18, 2018 12:22:17 GMT
So frustrating that he isn't been given a chance at Liverpool yet they aren't willing for him to go out on loan.
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Post by ae15 on Jan 18, 2018 12:30:54 GMT
Danny Ward all over again!
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 18, 2018 20:19:32 GMT
Relax, he's only 18. It'll be time to panic if this is still the case when he's 21
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Post by abwales on Jan 19, 2018 0:41:45 GMT
Stuff patience! The great players, even our own great players, were playing in first teams before they were 18. The guy had all the momentum in the World last year, I can't imagine how he must've felt on cloud nine with us and than going back to sitting in the stands. I don't think that's great development...
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 22, 2018 14:04:06 GMT
Relax, he's only 18. It'll be time to panic if this is still the case when he's 21 Sessegnon is younger than Woodburn and is currently ripping up the Championship, something I've no doubt Woodburn could do if given the chance. No time to relax, the boy needs regular first team football to continue his development and reach the elite level we all hope he can. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:06:45 GMT
Is this evidence that something is wrong with the you development structure of the English pyramid? Klopp was renowned at developing youth in Germany. Yet at Liverpool, he appears to be holding players back. Is the Premier League simply too competitive for it to also be a productive breeding ground for young players?
Perhaps in England (and English based Welsh clubs), the category system needs an immediate review. Perhaps it should be down to the FA and FAW to make sure that all pro clubs are up to scratch with their DVP systems and ditch the monopoly of Category One teams? I can see why they opted for the system that they have, but it doesn't seem to be working. I think it would only work if the standard and competitiveness of the top two divisions was much lower.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 22, 2018 15:57:22 GMT
Is this evidence that something is wrong with the you development structure of the English pyramid? Klopp was renowned at developing youth in Germany. Yet at Liverpool, he appears to be holding players back. Is the Premier League simply too competitive for it to also be a productive breeding ground for young players? Perhaps in England (and English based Welsh clubs), the category system needs an immediate review. Perhaps it should be down to the FA and FAW to make sure that all pro clubs are up to scratch with their DVP systems and ditch the monopoly of Category One teams? I can see why they opted for the system that they have, but it doesn't seem to be working. I think it would only work if the standard and competitiveness of the top two divisions was much lower. The category system makes it pointless for non-Category 1 clubs to have an academy |
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