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Post by georgeberrysheadband on Jul 4, 2017 11:58:42 GMT
Fair comment. And I don't know the answer but that would explain it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 12:20:43 GMT
There were 31,731 at the Moldova match. It was midweek. a Monday? It was our first game back after the Euros. I'm not saying it should have been that specific game, I'm saying it should be a team of that size. Serbia was an awkward kick off for exiles as will Austria and Republic of Ireland be. All three held at the CCS. Has anybody asked Wrexham FC whether they would entertain a Wales match? I know they're quite supporter friendly in comparison to some clubs. Found the CCS a very professional venue when I last used it. Polite stewarding, quick kiosk service etc. |
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Post by welshiron on Jul 4, 2017 12:25:42 GMT
I enjoyed my trips North to The Racecourse back in the day but even then the place was run down, god knows how bad it is now.
Like Texan said the money is better off being spent elsewhere
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 4, 2017 22:48:52 GMT
It was our first game back after the Euros. I'm not saying it should have been that specific game, I'm saying it should be a team of that size. Serbia was an awkward kick off for exiles as will Austria and Republic of Ireland be. All three held at the CCS. Has anybody asked Wrexham FC whether they would entertain a Wales match? I know they're quite supporter friendly in comparison to some clubs. Found the CCS a very professional venue when I last used it. Polite stewarding, quick kiosk service etc. There's no need to ask Wrexham AFC whether they'd like to host a match at the Racecourse as it's commonsensical. It'd be a nice little money spinner with the club taking cash in from food and drink sales. The CCS is a fantastic ground for the majority of Wales matches, I agree. It's just a shame that the racecourse is currently far from the standard required for international football. I do hope that when it does happen however, we see sense and allow Wrexham the opportunity to host matches. I also hope phillywelsh doesn't cry if it does happen. |
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Post by welshiron on Jul 5, 2017 6:27:55 GMT
The last game I had a ticket for at Wrexham was Switzerland in 1999. It was a qualifier and about 5,000 turned up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 7:55:13 GMT
The last game I had a ticket for at Wrexham was Switzerland in 1999. It was a qualifier and about 5,000 turned up. We'd get a fair few more now for Switzerland. So much hard work has gone in to making Wales a force in football. If things continue skywards then we should be looking at the Principality Stadium. I'd love to watch Wales there. |
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Post by BA Baracus on Jul 5, 2017 8:29:13 GMT
FAW grant to fit rail seating on the Kop, pitch improvements and anything else that will make the stadium viable for international matches.
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Post by cymroircarn on Jul 5, 2017 11:47:22 GMT
The last game I had a ticket for at Wrexham was Switzerland in 1999. It was a qualifier and about 5,000 turned up. We'd get a fair few more now for Switzerland. So much hard work has gone in to making Wales a force in football. If things continue skywards then we should be looking at the Principality Stadium. I'd love to watch Wales there. If we are consistently selling out the CCS then let's look at the Millenium. I have been going to games since 1990 and the best home atmosphere in my memory was the recent Belgium game. That was defending. One or two games aside at the Millenium atmosphere was not as good with double the attendance. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jul 5, 2017 11:50:43 GMT
Been to wrexham,s ground once with my dad.
It needs a lot of work on the stadium from what I saw.
Be good to play games there though but it would take more travelling time to get there than cardiff.
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Post by massivefloodlights on Jul 5, 2017 13:15:07 GMT
The rightful home is in the capital city, irrelevant where the FAW was started. Wtf is this shit? Wales were playing in Wrexham long before Cardiff was even made a capital city. |
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Post by eppingblue on Jul 5, 2017 14:55:50 GMT
I went there in the late 70's to see us lose to Germany. Fair play it was absolutely packed that night. We were all skint still in school, skived off for the day and set off on a Rover ticket. Any where on welsh buses and I think the borders for about 50p although I cant remember the actual cost. What seemed liked 15 bus journeys later we arrive in Shrewsbury at 6pm having been on the road since 7 in the morning. The bus to Wrexham meant going to Whitchurch first and no chance of getting to the game. So with barely enough cash to get in the ground we jumped the train. I did the away game in Germany that qualifying tourno - no planes in those days - what seemed like days on a bus. Kids don't know they're born today.
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Post by JC on Jul 6, 2017 13:00:24 GMT
It'd be hilarious if FAW decided they were moving all Wales games back up North. There's some arrogant swines on this thread. It really would be hilarious, especially as there isn't a stadium up North which could hold games. Arrogant?! It seems the only way to please some people on this message board is if we want the FAW to move from a modern 33k stadium up to a non league stadium. |
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Post by vandenhauwe on Jul 6, 2017 13:17:15 GMT
Faw obviously do care about Wrexham as they paid for the dressing rooms to be upgraded something they've never done for Swansea, Cardiff or newport!!Used to love going to the racecourse as a kid to watch wales!!
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Post by gwernybwch on Jul 7, 2017 20:59:10 GMT
I'm in Manchester and would prefer Cardiff over Wrexham. It wouldn't surprise if this is nothing but club rivalry here from those advocating a move. I suspect if you had to travel down the A470 from Bangor or even Builth Wells for that matter for every home game (and had done so for the last heaven know how many years), the thought of a game in Wrexham might be a bit more appealing. For what it's worth I don't support any Welsh club and have attended 'home' games at Anfield, Wrexham, Llanelli, Swansea and Cardiff. I honestly think that the atmosphere at the games at Wrexham (friendlies against New Zealand and Canada) was far better than the qualifiers at the Liberty and dare I say it at some of the games at the CCS (Finland, Australia games anyone ?). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 7:51:47 GMT
I use the train always. The rolling pub with cans from M&S is more fun.
Until Wrexham can accommodate the tournament ticket holders then there's no argument to be had. A friendly against so no mark country could be staged elsewhere; but let's have the discussion when there's one to be had.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 10, 2017 11:23:13 GMT
The last game I had a ticket for at Wrexham was Switzerland in 1999. It was a qualifier and about 5,000 turned up. We'd get a fair few more now for Switzerland. So much hard work has gone in to making Wales a force in football. If things continue skywards then we should be looking at the Principality Stadium. I'd love to watch Wales there. Great when full, but as soon as capacity drops its an awful venue. Plus the players dont class it as home, so its CCS! |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 10, 2017 11:29:16 GMT
We'd get a fair few more now for Switzerland. So much hard work has gone in to making Wales a force in football. If things continue skywards then we should be looking at the Principality Stadium. I'd love to watch Wales there. Great when full, but as soon as capacity drops its an awful venue. Plus the players dont class it as home, so its CCS! never ending discussion this, whats more important is the players and what helps them and CCS is the place. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 10, 2017 11:30:16 GMT
Serbia was an awkward kick off for exiles as will Austria and Republic of Ireland be. All three held at the CCS. Has anybody asked Wrexham FC whether they would entertain a Wales match? I know they're quite supporter friendly in comparison to some clubs. Found the CCS a very professional venue when I last used it. Polite stewarding, quick kiosk service etc. There's no need to ask Wrexham AFC whether they'd like to host a match at the Racecourse as it's commonsensical. It'd be a nice little money spinner with the club taking cash in from food and drink sales. The CCS is a fantastic ground for the majority of Wales matches, I agree. It's just a shame that the racecourse is currently far from the standard required for international football. I do hope that when it does happen however, we see sense and allow Wrexham the opportunity to host matches. I also hope phillywelsh doesn't cry if it does happen. I am not crying, i just dont think this argument is sensible in the slightest. The players class the CCS as home, that should be the end of the story. But no.1 the stadium isnt up to scratch, even if it was, it couldn't hold the current amount of season ticket holders, so its out of the question. If there was a stadium in Rhyl that held 35,000 and the players thought it was their home, i would travel to Rhyl to watch them. I dont care geographically really, but i do believe the home is the capital city of the country, and where the FAW started is a nonesense reason. But im arguing about the feasibility, and its not feasible, its just an arrogant attitude from the North Wales fans towards the subject. No one is crying, its having a different opinion. There seems to be a huge issue in this country with ignorance. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:40 GMT
There's no need to ask Wrexham AFC whether they'd like to host a match at the Racecourse as it's commonsensical. It'd be a nice little money spinner with the club taking cash in from food and drink sales. The CCS is a fantastic ground for the majority of Wales matches, I agree. It's just a shame that the racecourse is currently far from the standard required for international football. I do hope that when it does happen however, we see sense and allow Wrexham the opportunity to host matches. I also hope phillywelsh doesn't cry if it does happen. I am not crying, i just dont think this argument is sensible in the slightest. The players class the CCS as home, that should be the end of the story. But no.1 the stadium isnt up to scratch, even if it was, it couldn't hold the current amount of season ticket holders, so its out of the question. If there was a stadium in Rhyl that held 35,000 and the players thought it was their home, i would travel to Rhyl to watch them. I dont care geographically really, but i do believe the home is the capital city of the country, and where the FAW started is a nonesense reason. But im arguing about the feasibility, and its not feasible, its just an arrogant attitude from the North Wales fans towards the subject. No one is crying, its having a different opinion. There seems to be a huge issue in this country with ignorance. So when you make your point it's having a different opinion, but when we make ours it's arrogance? That's a very arrogant attitude to have. I'm done arguing this point with you as it's going absolutely nowhere. It's clear that we sit on different sides of the fence with this issue and no amount of discussion will bring about a resolution. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 10, 2017 15:57:07 GMT
I am not crying, i just dont think this argument is sensible in the slightest. The players class the CCS as home, that should be the end of the story. But no.1 the stadium isnt up to scratch, even if it was, it couldn't hold the current amount of season ticket holders, so its out of the question. If there was a stadium in Rhyl that held 35,000 and the players thought it was their home, i would travel to Rhyl to watch them. I dont care geographically really, but i do believe the home is the capital city of the country, and where the FAW started is a nonesense reason. But im arguing about the feasibility, and its not feasible, its just an arrogant attitude from the North Wales fans towards the subject. No one is crying, its having a different opinion. There seems to be a huge issue in this country with ignorance. So when you make your point it's having a different opinion, but when we make ours it's arrogance? That's a very arrogant attitude to have. I'm done arguing this point with you as it's going absolutely nowhere. It's clear that we sit on different sides of the fence with this issue and no amount of discussion will bring about a resolution. Agree with second point. And have no issue having differing opinions, just dont like being called arrogant for pointing out it doesnt make sense, or having a differing view of what constitutes the home of Welsh football. |
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Post by biwmares on Jul 21, 2017 9:57:06 GMT
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Post by rooster on Jul 21, 2017 11:34:36 GMT
Investment in the racecourse while we were under the control of various nefarious owners...or perhaps any kind of legislative support would have been nice from the WAG. But, and I say this in spite of being a Wrexham fan, short of purchasing, redeveloping and then handing over the ground to the WST free of charge I think the ship has sailed.
Id love to see another international match played at the racecourse, but it doesnt make sense. Yes getting to cardiff is a slight pain, but in reality by coach it takes me 3-4 hours to get there and the same to get home. I live a mile or so from the racecourse and last season it took me an hour to get my car out of the car park and drive home due to shitty car oark management and traffic issues. 3-4 hours followed by a day on the beer doesnt seem too bad of a thing to me. The CCS is a decent stadium, i love a beer in cardiff too.
Doesnt make sense to me to spend significant sums of money on the racecourse. Id like them to help us sort the kop mess out but other than that we dont need another international stadium.
The WAG is however (in my eyes) of perpetuating the north / south bias in all areas and not just football but i see no reason to be bitter about it.
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Post by llannerch on Jul 21, 2017 11:48:14 GMT
Id love to see another international match played at the racecourse, but it doesnt make sense. Yes getting to cardiff is a slight pain, but in reality by coach it takes me 3-4 hours to get there and the same to get home. I live a mile or so from the racecourse and last season it took me an hour to get my car out of the car park and drive home due to shitty car oark management and traffic issues. 3-4 hours followed by a day on the beer doesnt seem too bad of a thing to me. The CCS is a decent stadium, i love a beer in cardiff too. Doesnt make sense to me to spend significant sums of money on the racecourse. Id like them to help us sort the kop mess out but other than that we dont need another international stadium. All valid reasons, but there is argument for at least the occasional game being taken to the Racecourse for less tangible reasons: attachment, relevance, belonging, connection. Even today, with only 5 games in 20 years, it's still the venue that has hosted most Wales games. That matters |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 25, 2017 12:02:10 GMT
Investment in the racecourse while we were under the control of various nefarious owners...or perhaps any kind of legislative support would have been nice from the WAG. But, and I say this in spite of being a Wrexham fan, short of purchasing, redeveloping and then handing over the ground to the WST free of charge I think the ship has sailed. Id love to see another international match played at the racecourse, but it doesnt make sense. Yes getting to cardiff is a slight pain, but in reality by coach it takes me 3-4 hours to get there and the same to get home. I live a mile or so from the racecourse and last season it took me an hour to get my car out of the car park and drive home due to shitty car oark management and traffic issues. 3-4 hours followed by a day on the beer doesnt seem too bad of a thing to me. The CCS is a decent stadium, i love a beer in cardiff too. Doesnt make sense to me to spend significant sums of money on the racecourse. Id like them to help us sort the kop mess out but other than that we dont need another international stadium. The WAG is however (in my eyes) of perpetuating the north / south bias in all areas and not just football but i see no reason to be bitter about it. Great summary! Dont think anyone can argue with that. |
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Post by robin1864 on Jul 25, 2017 22:29:23 GMT
Investment in the racecourse while we were under the control of various nefarious owners...or perhaps any kind of legislative support would have been nice from the WAG. But, and I say this in spite of being a Wrexham fan, short of purchasing, redeveloping and then handing over the ground to the WST free of charge I think the ship has sailed. Id love to see another international match played at the racecourse, but it doesnt make sense. Yes getting to cardiff is a slight pain, but in reality by coach it takes me 3-4 hours to get there and the same to get home. I live a mile or so from the racecourse and last season it took me an hour to get my car out of the car park and drive home due to shitty car oark management and traffic issues. 3-4 hours followed by a day on the beer doesnt seem too bad of a thing to me. The CCS is a decent stadium, i love a beer in cardiff too. Doesnt make sense to me to spend significant sums of money on the racecourse. Id like them to help us sort the kop mess out but other than that we dont need another international stadium. The WAG is however (in my eyes) of perpetuating the north / south bias in all areas and not just football but i see no reason to be bitter about it. Great summary! Dont think anyone can argue with that. I can; High Street was a sea of red when we qualified and buzzing constantly during the Euros, the people of North Wales are owed an international game for often being the largest contingent of Welsh support, even if it's a bog standard friendly vs. a second string country. Yes we have traffic issues, but planners would pull a finger out for an international game, opposed to Wrexham vs. Fylde. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 26, 2017 11:15:00 GMT
Great summary! Dont think anyone can argue with that. I can; High Street was a sea of red when we qualified and buzzing constantly during the Euros, the people of North Wales are owed an international game for often being the largest contingent of Welsh support, even if it's a bog standard friendly vs. a second string country. Yes we have traffic issues, but planners would pull a finger out for an international game, opposed to Wrexham vs. Fylde. Balderdash! Largest contingent of Welsh support? Where do you have figures to substantiate that claim? Just because your high street was full in the Euros doesnt mean we should punish season ticket holders to fulfil your narrow-minded requirements. |
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Post by robin1864 on Jul 26, 2017 11:23:09 GMT
I can; High Street was a sea of red when we qualified and buzzing constantly during the Euros, the people of North Wales are owed an international game for often being the largest contingent of Welsh support, even if it's a bog standard friendly vs. a second string country. Yes we have traffic issues, but planners would pull a finger out for an international game, opposed to Wrexham vs. Fylde. Balderdash! Largest contingent of Welsh support? Where do you have figures to substantiate that claim? Just because your high street was full in the Euros doesnt mean we should punish season ticket holders to fulfil your narrow-minded requirements. I don't have figures, I go off how many coaches go down along with flags in the stadium. It's also been noted many times on here that before we became good, many Swansea and Cardiff fans to ignored Wales whilst they were caught up in Premier League mania. Would it REALLY be so punishing to give North Wales a friendly vs Latvia or some other shite like that? Are season ticket holders the only supporters who truly matter these days? |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 26, 2017 11:25:57 GMT
No, ive said before that a friendly im not opposed to. The general argument on here is for a competitive game. That is what i am opposed to.
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Post by welshiron on Jul 26, 2017 13:13:49 GMT
Might be an idea to look at the attendances for the last few games played in Wrexham
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 26, 2017 15:20:48 GMT
Great summary! Dont think anyone can argue with that. I can; High Street was a sea of red when we qualified and buzzing constantly during the Euros, the people of North Wales are owed an international game for often being the largest contingent of Welsh support, even if it's a bog standard friendly vs. a second string country. Yes we have traffic issues, but planners would pull a finger out for an international game, opposed to Wrexham vs. Fylde. Steady now. Wrexham vs Fylde could be our promotion game  |
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