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Post by iot on Jul 11, 2024 11:06:12 GMT
I think there's definitely the chance of a clean slate for all under Bellamy. No reason for there not to be. I do wonder how he'll be with players down the line though, is he the type to hold grudges or are we thinking the new mature Bellamy would be one to put the team first? He's had his share of manager's falling out with him when he was a player so hopefully he doesn't want to be like that. I agree that it will be a clean slate, but I don't think there's a particularly strong case for recalling Tom Lawrence personally given his lack of form, goals, and fitness last season, his age, and the fact we have around 5 or 6 wide forwards ahead of him and one or two others who are at the same sort of level but are younger |
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Post by ddirpytnop on Jul 11, 2024 20:56:16 GMT
I think there's definitely the chance of a clean slate for all under Bellamy. No reason for there not to be. I do wonder how he'll be with players down the line though, is he the type to hold grudges or are we thinking the new mature Bellamy would be one to put the team first? He's had his share of manager's falling out with him when he was a player so hopefully he doesn't want to be like that. I agree that it will be a clean slate, but I don't think there's a particularly strong case for recalling Tom Lawrence personally given his lack of form, goals, and fitness last season, his age, and the fact we have around 5 or 6 wide forwards ahead of him and one or two others who are at the same sort of level but are younger On the basis of what I've heard him say, Bellamy favours the promotion of youth over experience. I doubt that Lawrence will be first on his recall list. |
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Post by dai on Jul 11, 2024 21:53:57 GMT
If he's playing well, regularly and for a decent standard team, it would be daft to write off a 30 year old. We're not exactly spoilt for resources are we? Plenty of older players playing in this years' Euro's.
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Post by manulike on Jul 28, 2024 22:30:32 GMT
The man is on fire.
#TEAM.TOM
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Post by athenempadu on Jul 29, 2024 11:23:51 GMT
If he's playing well, regularly and for a decent standard team, it would be daft to write off a 30 year old. We're not exactly spoilt for resources are we? Plenty of older players playing in this years' Euro's. I'd have him in the squad but who is he going to replace in the starting XI? |
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Post by surge on Jul 29, 2024 18:38:35 GMT
Tom's issue lately has been the same of too many players in our squad in that injuries have made things more difficult and disrupted potential becoming (sustained) promise.
I think there's a place for him as long as he's performing and injury free.
It's been frustrating lately and Broadhead, one of our main players in recent times, going down injured is gutting.
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Post by jbt95 on Jul 30, 2024 13:03:19 GMT
He needs to be in the squad.
He’s now an experienced pro playing regularly and scoring goals. He’s also doing it at Rangers, while not everybody’s cup of tea, they are a big club play in Europe and have a high standard.
There was definitely a falling out between Page and Lawrence. It will sure be interesting if he is called up for September and there’s a press conference with him.
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Post by iot on Jul 30, 2024 14:42:40 GMT
I'm much more sceptical personally. He's had a couple of purple patches in his career where he's been in blistering form, but then goes on long runs producing nothing. He had a very underwhelming season last year. I didn't think he was good enough when he was in and around the first team in terms of his all round play. He would score the odd spectacular goal but then spend the next half a dozen games running down blind alleys. Personally I think this is the one position where we do have a lot of depth and have better options. That said, I'm sure Bellamy will give everyone a clean slate (as he should) and I wouldn't be strongly against Lawrence being given another shot. I just can't see anything to suggest he's not the same limited, patchy player that he was the last time he was in the squad.
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Post by talyfan on Jul 30, 2024 15:02:27 GMT
We're absolutely chocker with wingers/#10s.
Johnson
James
Wilson
Brooks
Burns
Broadhead
Koumas
Colwill
Matondo
Sorba
It's difficult for anyone to break into. Can only see him being called up if he's in red hot form and the others aren't + injuries.
Hopefully Bellamy balances the squad out a bit in his selections do feel we bloat the squad out loads in those positions and leave other areas light.
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Post by dai on Aug 10, 2024 18:20:11 GMT
We're absolutely chocker with wingers/#10s. Johnson James Wilson Brooks Burns Broadhead Koumas Colwill Matondo Sorba It's difficult for anyone to break into. Can only see him being called up if he's in red hot form and the others aren't + injuries. Hopefully Bellamy balances the squad out a bit in his selections do feel we bloat the squad out loads in those positions and leave other areas light. Half of those half been a complete disappointment though. Not sure if Lawrence will get called up again. Rangers fans seem to think his legs have gone somewhat as well. Will have to see how he gets on early this season. I'd like to see him given a chance again if he is performing. Think he carries more of a goal threat than the most of the above. |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 23, 2024 17:23:14 GMT
Could Tom be the recall??
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Aug 24, 2024 18:46:18 GMT
A goal and an assist for Rangers today!
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Post by manulike on Aug 24, 2024 20:22:56 GMT
On the bus!
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 26, 2024 3:40:08 GMT
Could Tom be the recall?? if he is playing and in good form why not he is now 30 and it looked like the boat had sailed for him as an international player but a new manager may have different ideas |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 26, 2024 14:11:47 GMT
Could Tom be the recall?? if he is playing and in good form why not he is now 30 and it looked like the boat had sailed for him as an international player but a new manager may have different ideas Lawrence and Page fell out, I don't care what anybody says. |
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Post by hooky on Aug 26, 2024 15:35:34 GMT
Well he also fell out with Sorba and Matando at one time
I hope and Bellamy will be far more cut throat, professional and meritocratic than Page. One example I will look for is Savage. With all due respect he scored a splendid goal in a game this season but is nowhere near international or Championship standard. I assume he'll get picked in the next squad but I really hope Bellamy picks future squads on merits regardless of any connection with his dad he may have
Sure you don't want highly disruptive individuals but you do want driven people upset about not being picked ahead of other players in the squad they are clearly better than, regardless of age, rank or what they have done in the 'distant' past.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 26, 2024 18:08:11 GMT
Well he also fell out with Sorba and Matando at one time I hope and Bellamy will be far more cut throat, professional and meritocratic than Page. One example I will look for is Savage. With all due respect he scored a splendid goal in a game this season but is nowhere near international or Championship standard. I assume he'll get picked in the next squad but I really hope Bellamy picks future squads on merits regardless of any connection with his dad he may have Sure you don't want highly disruptive individuals but you do want driven people upset about not being picked ahead of other players in the squad they are clearly better than, regardless of age, rank or what they have done in the 'distant' past. Savage isn't a good example. If you want to pick 4 defensive midfielders (I think we'd both agree that's sensible), then Ampadu and J.James are a lock for the first two spots. These are the only 2 genuine Championship level midfielders we have. To fill out the rest of our squad you have to drop a level down to look at the options there Morrell probably would be number 3 given his experience, but is still injured so we can't call him up to this camp. Josh Sheehan has over 250 appearances in the EFL and has been playing at League One level for the past 3 seasons. So he's pretty much a guarantee for the 3rd spot in Morrell's absence. But then we still need to pick the 4th... So here's the remaining options: Charlie Savage - has played 55 times at League One level for Forest Green and then Reading, that includes 40 appearances last season Dylan Levitt - played 3 games at League One level back in 2020, but since then has moved to bottom end teams in Scotland and is not currently a nailed on starter for Hibernian who sit 2nd bottom of the SPL. Not good enough Will Vaulks - 30 years old and a very limited low end Champ/top end League One slogger. Basically just a pair of legs to run about and is pretty poor with the ball at his feet - not what Bellamy will want in his progressive system, despite being the most experienced option here and currently playing in the Championship Terry Taylor - coming off the back of a long injury having not played last season, and looks to be leaving Charlton in League One. Hopefully stays at the same level but a tough ask given the injury he had Tom Lowery - was injured for the back end of last season and only has 1 appearance in the EFL cup since returning. Hasn't got off the bench in the Championship yet. Could be an interesting option given his age (26) and his experience (177 EFL appearances), if he can get into Pompey's first XI. But until he's a regular we shouldn't pick him The only other players currently playing in League One are perennial journeymen like Louis Thompson who have spent their whole careers there and are not better options than the above given League One is clearly their ceiling. So say what you want about Savage, but he is the next best option and deserves his place on merit - it's nothing to do with who his father is. To be a regular midfielder in League One at the age of 21 should be getting more attention given our serious lack of midfield options - he's the only one here playing at high enough of a level and also has years ahead to improve his game |
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Post by manulike on Aug 27, 2024 10:08:53 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Aug 27, 2024 10:14:35 GMT
With talk of Lawrence returning, Sorba getting a move to the top division in France and Matondo hitting a bit of form, it will be interesting to see who is selected and who they replace. We need to remember that the players currently in their positions are the likes of James, Brookes, Burns and Johnson, though Bellamys decision will be made. little easier with Brookes and Burns currently injured. |
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Post by morg on Aug 27, 2024 10:31:02 GMT
Interesting comments. Sounds like he's in Bellamy's plans then if he can re-establish his form and fitness. Also the last bit to me does suggest that there was little contact with the last regime. |
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Post by vvm on Aug 27, 2024 13:16:07 GMT
Well he also fell out with Sorba and Matando at one time I hope and Bellamy will be far more cut throat, professional and meritocratic than Page. One example I will look for is Savage. With all due respect he scored a splendid goal in a game this season but is nowhere near international or Championship standard. I assume he'll get picked in the next squad but I really hope Bellamy picks future squads on merits regardless of any connection with his dad he may have Sure you don't want highly disruptive individuals but you do want driven people upset about not being picked ahead of other players in the squad they are clearly better than, regardless of age, rank or what they have done in the 'distant' past. Savage isn't a good example. If you want to pick 4 defensive midfielders (I think we'd both agree that's sensible), then Ampadu and J.James are a lock for the first two spots. These are the only 2 genuine Championship level midfielders we have. To fill out the rest of our squad you have to drop a level down to look at the options there Morrell probably would be number 3 given his experience, but is still injured so we can't call him up to this camp. Josh Sheehan has over 250 appearances in the EFL and has been playing at League One level for the past 3 seasons. So he's pretty much a guarantee for the 3rd spot in Morrell's absence. But then we still need to pick the 4th... So here's the remaining options: Charlie Savage - has played 55 times at League One level for Forest Green and then Reading, that includes 40 appearances last season Dylan Levitt - played 3 games at League One level back in 2020, but since then has moved to bottom end teams in Scotland and is not currently a nailed on starter for Hibernian who sit 2nd bottom of the SPL. Not good enough Will Vaulks - 30 years old and a very limited low end Champ/top end League One slogger. Basically just a pair of legs to run about and is pretty poor with the ball at his feet - not what Bellamy will want in his progressive system, despite being the most experienced option here and currently playing in the Championship Terry Taylor - coming off the back of a long injury having not played last season, and looks to be leaving Charlton in League One. Hopefully stays at the same level but a tough ask given the injury he had Tom Lowery - was injured for the back end of last season and only has 1 appearance in the EFL cup since returning. Hasn't got off the bench in the Championship yet. Could be an interesting option given his age (26) and his experience (177 EFL appearances), if he can get into Pompey's first XI. But until he's a regular we shouldn't pick him The only other players currently playing in League One are perennial journeymen like Louis Thompson who have spent their whole careers there and are not better options than the above given League One is clearly their ceiling. So say what you want about Savage, but he is the next best option and deserves his place on merit - it's nothing to do with who his father is. To be a regular midfielder in League One at the age of 21 should be getting more attention given our serious lack of midfield options - he's the only one here playing at high enough of a level and also has years ahead to improve his game Eli King? 21 and just moved on loan to League One Stevenage. Doesn't get in ahead of Savage currently but could be one for the future if he can get a decent number of appearances this season. |
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Post by surge on Aug 27, 2024 14:00:25 GMT
Will Vaulks has made bright start (minus one awful moment against Coventry) in a fairly progressive Oxford side.
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Post by talyfan on Aug 27, 2024 15:33:39 GMT
Think Vaulks get a raw deal to be honest. He'd be a useful players for us. Not starting but definitely an option off the bench.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Aug 27, 2024 16:09:52 GMT
Unless there has been a late call up from last week, don't think any of the above listed are in the senior squad this time around
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Post by welshrover on Sept 15, 2024 15:22:39 GMT
Scores the winner today for Rangers
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Post by manulike on Sept 24, 2024 14:30:16 GMT
With no Rambo and with Brooks not getting any playing time, this is the perfect time to bring Tom back into the fold.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 29, 2024 11:36:59 GMT
Cracking goal just now for Rangers, what a finish!
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Post by morg on Sept 29, 2024 11:42:52 GMT
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 29, 2024 12:05:32 GMT
Cracking goal!
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Post by hooky on Sept 29, 2024 12:32:33 GMT
Good for him!
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