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Post by mrpicton79 on Oct 31, 2022 23:51:16 GMT
First up: Cewri Cwpan y Byd tonight at 2100 1.5hr documentary on the last 18 years of the National team That's the evening's entertainment sorted  Well it was a little narrative heavy. I'd have liked a bit more focus on the football side when they were talking about Speed. Kind of surprised there was no mention of Dafydd Iwan. Also they muted Nic and Malc's legendary commentary for most of the goals they decided to show, which was disappointing. But on the whole it was a pretty good watch. |
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Post by insertname on Nov 1, 2022 0:35:32 GMT
I think what they meant was that BBC Wales also have quite a few pre-World Cup programmes lined up over the coming weeks. Apologies, didn't know that, where we live our TV defaults to BBC North West England and you have to go searching in the 900's amongst the adult channels to find BBC Wales. “I’m just trying to find BBC Wales love, honest!” 🤔 I’ll remember that one myself next time 😂 |
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Post by welwyn on Nov 1, 2022 8:23:01 GMT
Someone posted a full list on twitter:
S4C & BBC pre World Cup
Legends of Welsh Sport: Toshack | Oct 31 (BBC)
World Cup Giants | Oct 31 (S4C)
Together Stronger | Nov 2, 9, 16 (BBC)
Legends of Welsh Sport: Southall | Nov 7 (BBC)
Squad ✅ | Nov 9
Bois 58 | Nov 13 (S4C)
Legends of Welsh Sport: Rob Page | Nov 14 (BBC)
Road to Doha | Nov 17 (BBC)
Red Wall: 2022 World Cup | Nov 18 (S4C)
Wales to the World | Nov 20 (S4C)
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Post by welshrover on Nov 1, 2022 18:26:49 GMT
At least my flag got a showing on the Toshack programme.
First time I have seen it since I put it up in the attic about ten years ago!
As hand luggage size was reduced by the airlines there was barely enough room for your clothes never mind a bloody big flag!!
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 2, 2022 7:37:59 GMT
At least my flag got a showing on the Toshack programme. First time I have seen it since I put it up in the attic about ten years ago! As hand luggage size was reduced by the airlines there was barely enough room for your clothes never mind a bloody big flag!! Can’t you ‘wear’ it on the plane? |
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Post by jimbo82 on Nov 2, 2022 10:49:00 GMT
Here's a list of the programmes on BBC Wales:
Wales World Cup content on the BBC
2, 9 and 16 November, BBC One Wales, 20:00 GMT: Together Stronger
A landmark series charting the tumultuous and transformational 18-year period that took Wales from the depths of despair to their first World Cup in 64 years.
Late Night Football Club - Ahead of every Wales game
A late-night entertainment and music series fused together with football and presented by former Wales international Robbie Savage and broadcaster Polly James, along with film producer and football fanatic Jonny Owen.
31 October, BBC One Wales, 20:30 GMT, Legends of Welsh Sport: Toshack
A nostalgic film celebrating the remarkable career of Welsh football legend John Toshack.
7 November, BBC One Wales, 20:30 GMT, Legends of Welsh Sport: Neville Southall
This is the story of a football icon like no other, the story of a binman who became a legend, Neville Southall.
14 November, BBC One Wales, 20:30 GMT, Legends of Welsh Sport: Rob Page
This is the remarkable story of the boy from Tylorstown who would change the fortunes of Welsh football forever.
November 17, BBC One Wales, 19:00 GMT, Match of the Day Wales: Road to Doha
Join the Match of the Day Wales team for a very special preview programme as they kick-off the build up to the FIFA World Cup in Qatar.
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Post by welshrover on Nov 3, 2022 23:49:39 GMT
The really sad thing, well for me anyway, watching the programme was Bale coming off the pitch with his arm around he who shall not be mentioned.
Just how many goals would Ched have scored for Wales if it wasn't for "I'm going to buy a new Mini Cooper with my claim"
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Post by jimbo82 on Nov 6, 2022 12:28:42 GMT
Another documentary for your diary - this one includes interviews with some of the 1958 world cup squad:
AGAINST THE ODDS
WALES: THE 64 YEAR WAIT
MONDAY 14TH NOVEMBER, 9PM
itv4
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 9, 2022 21:09:20 GMT
Another great instalment of Together Stronger tonight. On iPlayer if you missed it
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Post by jimbo82 on Nov 17, 2022 11:43:44 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2022 13:36:41 GMT
Another great instalment of Together Stronger tonight. On iPlayer if you missed it Very emotional at the end to see Rambo getting upset that Speed isn't here to us at a World Cup. Brought a tear to my eye that did |
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Post by welshrover on Nov 19, 2022 13:05:29 GMT
Just as an aside to this thread I hope the people who aren't going to Qatar stick with S4c and don't switch their allegiances to the big two for the World Cup.
Even for non Welsh speakers it will be a better experience than listening to ITV and BBC droning on about England within the first five minutes of any game, regardless of who is actually playing.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 19, 2022 15:40:21 GMT
I'm planning to stick with S4C for the Wales games, but will obviously still watch BBC/ITV for the others. Agreed the constant discussion of England even when not playing will be tiresome, these outlets will also bring politics into it more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 16:22:18 GMT
I didn't even realise S4C had the rights but will stick with them now i know,i very much doubt the person that decides what sport S4C bid on reads this board but if you do you are awesome ,i am a big cycling fan and thier cycling coverage is brill too. |
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Post by welshowl on Nov 19, 2022 21:25:30 GMT
Just as an aside to this thread I hope the people who aren't going to Qatar stick with S4c and don't switch their allegiances to the big two for the World Cup. Even for non Welsh speakers it will be a better experience than listening to ITV and BBC droning on about England within the first five minutes of any game, regardless of who is actually playing. Another S4C programme I'm watching tonight is Pob cam i Qatar - going through the whole qualifying campaign (half way through the hour). Reminds us of the times when things were a little ropey on the way to this chatter this week. Gareth's less than-stylish-hattrick not in Belarus, inability to score again Estonia at home, Gwennan's firm views about Ward's own goal vs the Czechs. But also the goal in Belgium and that reminder than DJ can score (please can we play the Czechs again soon).
Come on Cymru and S4C and y Wal Goch, some more memories to gladden us all over the next few weeks please.
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 11, 2022 2:43:59 GMT
If we had our own media and tv like every country should instead of being forced to be british with countrymen who suffer from Westminster Stockholm syndrome we could enjoy the World Cup regardless of if England won it as just like they should be it’s a different country and not ours. Imagine if we had our own strong league and all our teams played in it instead of in England we would then realise that how they do should be as irrelevant to us as how Brazil or Ireland or Scotland or Fiji do In competitions.
Would love to see Croatia win it. I feel like that’s a win for football and cements Modrić as a great. They’d totally prove me 10000% wrong. I’d love it if we played the world champs game 1 in qualifying.
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 11, 2022 8:12:34 GMT
We have S4C surely that’s our Welsh TV, we also have plenty of Welsh media
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 11, 2022 9:20:39 GMT
And do they show every World Cup game live and free? No. So our public has to take on board the opinions of another nation who’s opinions should be alien to us. Why can’t we watch Brazil v Croatia on welsh language tv or welsh English language tv? Why do we have this English coverage on welsh tv?
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 11, 2022 16:06:35 GMT
So you want a BBC or ITV just for Wales 😂 you do realise that almost 70 million People pay towards the BBC right? If Wales had its on station ( which we do in S4C) that’s about as good as it would get considering there would be little money to fund it.
im guessing the reason S4C are not showing every game is they simply can’t afford it and the viewing figures for a Welsh language programme would be about 300k ish instead of 19 million.
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Post by pclaude on Dec 11, 2022 17:07:49 GMT
How do other countries with similar populations and less money manage it then?
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 11, 2022 17:30:32 GMT
Similar to S4C that’s my point. You won’t get a BBC or an ITV style production with only max viewing figures of 300 to 400 thousand. Also a lot of other Countries have state like TV payed for by the Government.
The BBC has its knockers but is still one of the best TV companies in the World.
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 11, 2022 18:18:40 GMT
Currently the BBC funds most of S4C public money and helps them broadcast quite a lot of their programs.
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Post by pclaude on Dec 11, 2022 19:52:21 GMT
No- they show all 64 games. So not similar to S4C. But youre of course right about production etc. Though a studio, a few pundits and beamed in games needn’t cost a lot.
Anyway, Ive travelled enough to never get worked up about bias at BBC/ITV.
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Post by marsvolta on Dec 11, 2022 20:05:52 GMT
Yeah, I suppose we’ve got to accept that they’re naturally going to be biased so no point worrying about it. The ‘best chance in ages as Morocco would be in the semi final’ comments particularly came back to haunt them haha.
Also I did chuckle at them mocking Portugal for blaming the ref and the fans mocked them for crying, literally a few hours before they complained about the ref in the France game and we’re in tears themselves.
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 11, 2022 21:25:03 GMT
And do they show every World Cup game live and free? No. So our public has to take on board the opinions of another nation who’s opinions should be alien to us. Why can’t we watch Brazil v Croatia on welsh language tv or welsh English language tv? Why do we have this English coverage on welsh tv? So you want a BBC or ITV just for Wales 😂 you do realise that almost 70 million People pay towards the BBC right? If Wales had its on station ( which we do in S4C) that’s about as good as it would get considering there would be little money to fund it. im guessing the reason S4C are not showing every game is they simply can’t afford it and the viewing figures for a Welsh launguage programme would be about 300k ish instead of 19 million. If we were independent with our own television channels we wouldn't be paying the same amount for broadcasting rights as England does. Would be interesting to know how much Ireland pays for World Cup football coverage. |
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Post by insertname on Dec 11, 2022 21:26:34 GMT
No- they show all 64 games. So not similar to S4C. But youre of course right about production etc. Though a studio, a few pundits and beamed in games needn’t cost a lot. Anyway, Ive travelled enough to never get worked up about bias at BBC/ITV. Yeah, I suppose we’ve got to accept that they’re naturally going to be biased so no point worrying about it. The ‘best chance in ages as Morocco would be in the semi final’ comments particularly came back to haunt them haha. Also I did chuckle at them mocking Portugal for blaming the ref and the fans mocked them for crying, literally a few hours before they complained about the ref in the France game and we’re in tears themselves. Yep, so much solipsism it´s unreal. Also the commentary on ITV is horrendous. Every basic thing an England player does that you would expect any half decent player to do with ease and they talk it up like it's an event that has helped to shape the course of human history. It honestly hurt my head yesterday because it grated like fingernails on a blackboard. Someone on another forum nailed it with that Matterface twunt when they said that every sentence he comes out with is structured like he hopes it will be the next "They think it's all over, it is now!". Just rancid and I'm surprised that even England fans can put up with it without finding it an embarrassment to them but they obviously do because he keeps getting his contract renewed. I'll bet he's a bit more reserved now that England have gone out mind! |
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 11, 2022 21:36:44 GMT
So you want a BBC or ITV just for Wales 😂 you do realise that almost 70 million People pay towards the BBC right? If Wales had its on station ( which we do in S4C) that’s about as good as it would get considering there would be little money to fund it. im guessing the reason S4C are not showing every game is they simply can’t afford it and the viewing figures for a Welsh launguage programme would be about 300k ish instead of 19 million. If we were independent with our own television channels we wouldn't be paying the same amount for broadcasting rights as England does. Would be interesting to know how much Ireland pays for World Cup football coverage. Well I can’t imagine any tv company surviving let alone being any good on less than £150 per person from a maximum of 500 thousand people. Ireland have 5 million population. Any Welsh language channel would only have a maximum audience of 500 thousand. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 11, 2022 21:41:23 GMT
Similar to S4C that’s my point. You won’t get a BBC or an ITV style production with only max viewing figures of 300 to 400 thousand. Also a lot of other Countries have state like TV payed for by the Government. The BBC has its knockers but is still one of the best TV companies in the World. No- they show all 64 games. So not similar to S4C. But youre of course right about production etc. Though a studio, a few pundits and beamed in games needn’t cost a lot. Anyway, Ive travelled enough to never get worked up about bias at BBC/ITV. England has almost 57 million people we have 3 million obviously there will be natural bias. Let’s not forget the huge fanfair that went around our first qualifying since 58. |
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Post by pclaude on Dec 11, 2022 21:58:10 GMT
No- they show all 64 games. So not similar to S4C. But youre of course right about production etc. Though a studio, a few pundits and beamed in games needn’t cost a lot. Anyway, Ive travelled enough to never get worked up about bias at BBC/ITV. Yeah, I suppose we’ve got to accept that they’re naturally going to be biased so no point worrying about it. The ‘best chance in ages as Morocco would be in the semi final’ comments particularly came back to haunt them haha. Also I did chuckle at them mocking Portugal for blaming the ref and the fans mocked them for crying, literally a few hours before they complained about the ref in the France game and we’re in tears themselves. I meant that if you think BBC & ITV are biased, try other countries. There’s far worse. Maybe not as ungracious. What is interesting, is that in South America it does appear to be squarely behind Argentina now. |
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 11, 2022 23:43:51 GMT
Aberbeeg my point is really nothing to do with itv or bbc. I’m trying to say I wish we were an independent nation. I can’t see people in Slovenia enjoying the Croatia World Cup coverage , the people in Switzerland enjoying the French, thee Dutch don’t watch the German coverage, the population of Lithuania aren’t watching the Russian coverage they all have their own tv so why must we have television made for another country disguised as something called British?
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