Stu's Cricket Petition

Cheers, didn't want to spam up the board too much (there's plenty of time for that once I get my feet under the rug etc )

Wales played England in 2002 and beat them comfortably which brings up the ironic situation where the players on the winning team are trying to get in the losing sides team.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/2062244.stm

How ridiculous does that sound? Imagine when Wales take on England at Wembley that Wales were to hammer them and then the players could be picked to play for England in the Euros. Why do we let this happen?

Glamorgan CCC would likely be ejected from the first class game in England thus cutting off funding (via Test revenue) and sponsorship that funds the game in Wales. Wales would only be an associate member of the ICC so professional Welsh cricketers would still opt to play for England in the aspiration of playing Test cricket and testing their skills at the highest level. It's a non sequitur, sadly. I won't be signing it

Don't scotland and Ireland have 'county' teams aswell though?

By which I mean, why couldn't Glamorgan carry on in the english league?

I don't think it's necessary for there to be a Wales cricket team.

Traditonally our great players have played for "England". What should happen is a campaign to correctly name the team to "England & Wales". It's the England & Wales Cricket Board that runs the team.

We don't need to through over a century of the team away and dismiss what Welsh players have done in the past, simply the team needs to be correctly named.

How many Welsh players currently play for england?

How many Welsh players have ever played for england?

The history you speak of is not a shared one. The reason it is called England and ALWAYS WILL BE is that it IS england - with the odd colonial recruit (just like they have always done in cricket and rugby).

Cheers to everyone who has signed and shared the link. Firstly it's not my petition I got it from "Tîm criced i Gymru - Wales Cricket Team" group on facebook.

Secondly to anyone detracting, imagine the worst case scenario where Glamorgan aren't allowed to play with the English any more. Are we really losing out? Can cricket fans not go and watch their local teams instead. Can we not have a proper Welsh cricket league where the aspiration for all players is to play for Wales?

At the moment you have more chance of playing for the England (and Wales) team if you are South African. What a joke.

Thirdly, for anyone wanting to share you can share the group and/or the link on your facebook or any other forums you are members of.

And there is a Wales team for aspiring Welsh cricketers. Its Minor Counties Wales and it is entirely amateur for Welsh league players.

They are invited (as are The Netherlands) to play in the 40 over competition. They have no right to play in it as members of the ECB. The reason they are invited to play in it is because it brings in extra fixtures to limited overs competition - the perceived cash cow of cricket, incl. T20. That very few additional spectators watch these fictures or sponsors are interested has led to calls for them to be removed as it is leading to overplaying. Many counties use them as developmental games for younger players, not in itself a bad thing but shows how quality is spread thinly across the English longer form limited overs game at the moment. Compare England's 40 over performances with its Test and T20 performances for instance.

There is no reason why Wales wouldn't be invited too but it would be a side of lower quality than the current Glamorgan side plus a ringer pro (like Phil Simmonds used to do for Ireland, or Botha more lately for them). If anything money would get thrown at getting a couple of high profile ringers in the team bringing about the sort of team 'full of Saffers' that stu refers to. So there's a team called Wales but it's full of low grade players, and ringers - I'd rather have the status quo frankly

So basically it's exactly the same as our exiled footie clubs. They are full members of the the FAW and given associate member status of The FA as a result of being invited to play in their pyramid.

The FA could revoke their status at any time.

Re: Stu's Cricket Petition
« Reply #19 Today at 12:11pm »

Today at 7:06am, flynnfan wrote:


I'd like to see a Welsh team with full test status- develop the ground in Colwyn bay and one in the south west and we can play 2 and 3 game series'. Would be great to have two tests against the Aussies before the Ashes every 4 years. I don't think a Welsh test team would be much worse than the current West Indies one! Someone like Matthew Maynard then would have been able to have a long and regular international cricket career, rather than the 3 or 4 matches that he actually played.

.....so I'm signing it.


Maynard would actually be dual qualified for England and Wales. I wonder who he would have chosen?

That he won so few Test caps is largely down to him and him alone.


...born in England, grew up on Anglesey. Bit like George North then.

IDEA: The Celtic Isles

(eg The West Indies)

Hang on, what the fuck have England ever done for us apart from oppress, insult and boss us around. At least the Irish don't lord it over us, at least the Irish media doesn't constantly attack our country. At the moment we are fair game for English xenophobia through the media and their society.

I don't know how long you have lived in England but thats why you have more of an affinity with them, because all we get from you is how Wales won't survive without the magnificent English. Ill tell you what makes us more similar to Ireland and Scotland than the English and that is we don't have a racist/ xenophobic attitude to anyone who isn't our nationality and we don't look down on other countries. Also at least the Irish and the Scots aren't using North Wales as their building site, because they need homes and aren't willing to build on their own land. They are building 600 homes across the road from me because Cheshire and Merseyside need housing, that means the local services are going to suffer especially as our fire station is part-time, the roads won't cope with the extra traffic volume, they are going to close the local police station which is already part time and they are closing down local schools. This is why I have no affinity with the English because they will anglify and destroy our community

I have done a lot of travelling in my life and there is one thing that caught my attention and that is that the English are hated all over the world and because we are still under occupation by them we are included in this because in peoples eyes Britain = England.

Yeah, I don't care how bad we might me - that's not the point of international sport. It's about representing and doing as well as you can for your country.

At the moment, Welsh people cannot do that in cricket.

And to be fair to english people, it would be nonsense to change the name to england and Wales - I mean, at any given time in their history, has there ever been more than one Welsh player in their side?

If we had our own team, cricket would be far more popular and played more widely in schools than it is now.