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Post by matty on Aug 8, 2011 11:21:19 GMT
Because they are nearly 100 hundredplaces above us, and he is yet to have a proper full season as his trailed off last year and is simply not ready. This shows you do not know who Matthews is. His season didn't trail off last year - he didn't play after scoring an own goal early on in the season, apart from a few sub appearances now and then. He was mis-managed by Jones and Cardiff, as a club, have missed out on the next Gareth Bale. I've said it on here before (many times) - this kid is class. Let him run rings round Australia. |
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Post by llannerch on Aug 8, 2011 11:44:18 GMT
Great prospect but if he starts he will get torn apart he simply isn't ready to start against a team ranked 100 or so places above us. Surely a player gets ready to play against such countries by playing against them? Do you suggest we blood him in a friendly against say, Andorra? That won't prepare him |
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Post by youngdragon on Aug 8, 2011 11:56:02 GMT
No im saying he come off the bench, bleed him into the side slowley don't throw him into the deep end, full strengh team or not we could easily be rolled over by this Aussie team and if Matthews starts and that happends it will knock the lad for 6. Ok his season didn't trail off but he clearly didn't play as much as he should have and mis managed or not he should have played more.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 8, 2011 12:03:36 GMT
An August friendly, at home, against a marginally above-average side......it's hardly deep end stuff. Away to Germany or France, or a game in Istanbul, needing a win to qualify....that's deep end.
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Post by matty on Aug 8, 2011 12:24:58 GMT
mis managed or not he should have played more. But so should have Ramsey whilst at Cardiff. Jones' experience over youth policy has held back Matthews no doubt, but teams like Villa and Man Utd weren't sniffing about for nothing. |
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 3, 2011 22:23:50 GMT
Was very good for Celtic tonight as they beat Rennes 3-1 in the Europa league. Slightly out of position at left back, he played quite deep but his defending appears more discipined these days. Great experience for him to be playing tough European ties at 19 years old. He's capable of becoming a really top quality player.
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Post by rushlegend on Nov 4, 2011 13:10:15 GMT
Great news flynnfan!!
Really like this guy, he could play right back meaning Gunter can play centre half is Blake or Williams are unavailable.
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Post by matty on Nov 4, 2011 13:13:38 GMT
I've praised this kid numerous times on here. I've not seen him play for Celtic but for Cardiff he was always a solid defender, but superb going forward - a bit like a right sided Bale. Good to hear he's getting a chance at Celtic despite his young age.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 4, 2011 14:41:55 GMT
I've always thought he looks good going forward, but I was intersted to see if his defending would improve at Celtic, and on last night's evidence it has. Rennes a pretty strong side with French and various African international players. Neil Lennon was full of praise for Matthews afterwards. And it seems the Celtic fans have taken to him too: www.talkceltic.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114189 |
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Post by Canton106 on Nov 4, 2011 21:30:28 GMT
Always seen him as a potential right sided midfielder more than a full back really, his defending is very suspect at times although there's time for that to improve. Wouldn't be surprised to see him change position successfully like Bale did.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 4, 2011 23:16:26 GMT
Always seen him as a potential right sided midfielder more than a full back really, his defending is very suspect
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He's only 19 though! There's not that many 19 year olds whose defensive games are fully developed.
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Post by leescratchpele on Nov 14, 2011 10:40:32 GMT
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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 14, 2011 13:01:45 GMT
He had a cracking game.
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Post by gareth on Nov 14, 2011 13:24:44 GMT
Thought he played well on saturday. Great to have an option who can play right and left back + maybe further forward in midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 17:33:24 GMT
he played really well and at one stage did some beautiful 1'2's with Aaron Ramsey! looks good going forward..possible should go in at right back instead of gunter? i do like gunts though...
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Post by Tim P on Nov 14, 2011 18:09:36 GMT
I thought he looked excellent on the ball - and far more confident than in previous games.
I wonder what his position will be in the long term? Any Celtic/Cardiff watchers have any opinion on this?
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Post by stu on Nov 14, 2011 20:40:17 GMT
he played really well and at one stage did some beautiful 1'2's with Aaron Ramsey! looks good going forward..possible should go in at right back instead of gunter? i do like gunts though... On that performance I'd agree. Although if Gunter can pull some more perfomances like he did against the Swiss out of his ass then I'd disagree.  |
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 14, 2011 22:17:20 GMT
I saw Celtics game vs Rennes in the Europa league where he played left back and was very good. But right back is probably his 'natural' position, albeit he still has a bit to learn about defending...but then, most 19 year olds do (it strikes me that it takes experience to become a top defender... being a top attacker is perhaps more about instinct?) So Gunter and Matthews could play left (if Taylor's injured) or right back over the next 12 years or so. It feels great to have these kind of options at full back, because under Sparky it was a HUGE problem area (especially when Delaney was injured...)
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Post by llannerch on Nov 22, 2011 14:04:47 GMT
His positioning was suspect on a couple of occasions vs Norway but nothing that won't come with time
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Post by matty on Nov 22, 2011 14:46:43 GMT
I wonder what his position will be in the long term? Any Celtic/Cardiff watchers have any opinion on this? Read my numerous previous comments on the lad - he'll be converted into a right sided Gareth Bale just in time for Bellamy to retire and leave the position in very safe hands! The boy is absolute class going forward - if it wasn't for Dave Jones and his stupid comments he'd have even more game time to his name by now, and maybe that move to one of the big four would've happened. |
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Post by abwales on Nov 22, 2011 15:12:40 GMT
I wonder what his position will be in the long term? Any Celtic/Cardiff watchers have any opinion on this? Read my numerous previous comments on the lad - he'll be converted into a right sided Gareth Bale just in time for Bellamy to retire and leave the position in very safe hands! The boy is absolute class going forward - if it wasn't for Dave Jones and his stupid comments he'd have even more game time to his name by now, maybe that move to one of the big four would've happened. Completely agree with you. I remember watching him a few times and thinking exactly the same - like Bale, people will finally see he can't defend and he'll move up to the wing - but then I watched him defend vs Norway, and he was brilliant. We have 3 great RB's, all of which can play on the left too, which is great. Adam Matthews is probably the only thing that could make me watch an SPL match. |
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Post by squatter1 on Nov 22, 2011 17:55:32 GMT
Hang on a minute: since when was Matthews demonstrating the pace, technique and delivery of Bale?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love if it were true, but Bale comparisons sound a little optimistic, to say the least. So Matthews is in fact one of the best wingers in the world (like Bale) it's just nobody's noticed it yet?
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 22, 2011 17:57:37 GMT
I agree squatter- I really don't see him as a winger either. He looks a proper modern attacking full back to me.
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Post by abwales on Nov 22, 2011 20:48:06 GMT
Hang on a minute: since when was Matthews demonstrating the pace, technique and delivery of Bale? Don't get me wrong, I'd love if it were true, but Bale comparisons sound a little optimistic, to say the least. So Matthews is in fact one of the best wingers in the world (like Bale) it's just nobody's noticed it yet? Not once has anyone said they have the same quality. I'm just saying I expected him to do a Bale and go from full back to winger. |
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 22, 2011 22:25:58 GMT
people will finally see he can't defend -----------  ? Really? because I thought some of his defending was excellent vs Norway. As it was vs Rennes a few days before. He's 19 years old and is still learning that side of the game. |
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Post by abwales on Nov 22, 2011 22:45:46 GMT
people will finally see he can't defend ----------- ? Really? because I thought some of his defending was excellent vs Norway. As it was vs Rennes a few days before. He's 19 years old and is still learning that side of the game. If you read my post again, it says 'I thought' and I then went on to say he was brilliant against Norway. Having seen him in that game and reading your report on him I'm sure he will be a full back. and Bale got moved up to the left wing when he was 20, so maybe we should have waited for him to learn how to defend?!?! |
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Post by matty on Nov 23, 2011 11:56:43 GMT
Hang on a minute: since when was Matthews demonstrating the pace, technique and delivery of Bale? Don't get me wrong, I'd love if it were true, but Bale comparisons sound a little optimistic, to say the least. So Matthews is in fact one of the best wingers in the world (like Bale) it's just nobody's noticed it yet? I compared Matthews to Bale even a few years ago. I remember watching Bale influence Championship matches from left back as a 17 year old. Phenomenal. Matthews was not doing the same I admit, but he wasn't given the opportunity either. When he did play for Cardiff he was superb - comfortable on the ball, taking players on for fun - with his pace and creativity he certainly isn't a nailed on right back (saying that I do think he is a better defender than Bale). He also has one of the longest throw in's I've seen too - not a bad tool to have. Is he another Bale? No, but then again who is? Bale is the complete athlete, and don't forget he is 3 years ahead of Matthews in development. Matthews is absolute class though - you are more than welcome to drag this post back in a few years and rub it in my face. I don't think you will get chance to though  |
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Post by llannerch on Nov 23, 2011 13:00:49 GMT
I then went on to say he was brilliant against Norway A bit of an exaggeration. He had a good game but he wasn't that good |
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Post by abwales on Nov 23, 2011 13:37:53 GMT
I then went on to say he was brilliant against Norway A bit of an exaggeration. He had a good game but he wasn't that good You lot pick at everything on this forum don't you! He had a good game then. |
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Post by leescratchpele on Nov 23, 2011 17:59:28 GMT
He played as a winger for Cardiff on a couple of occasions but didn't shine in that role. He regards himself as a full-back. He should play at Celtic for a season or two and learn his position.
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? Really? because I thought some of his defending was excellent vs Norway. As it was vs Rennes a few days before. He's 19 years old and is still learning that side of the game. 