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Post by bellamyforever on Oct 6, 2010 14:26:46 GMT
hes been called up for the game friday now.
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Post by georgetm1 on Oct 6, 2010 14:46:16 GMT
Wicked. I reckon he could be a good player for us in the future.
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Post by rushlegend on Oct 6, 2010 14:47:50 GMT
Surprised Dave Jones hasn't stopped him yet..... hang on there is time though....
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Post by bellamyforever on Oct 6, 2010 14:54:14 GMT
imagine if bellamy was in the line up.
dam shame...
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Post by caradocevans on Feb 25, 2011 11:20:30 GMT
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Post by matty on Feb 25, 2011 12:11:44 GMT
I've said it here before, but that kid is class. He's not been given a chance at Cardiff this season, but I'm never sure playing in Scotland is a good move. A real shame for us Cardiff fans because seeing him constantly overlooked has really frustrated a lot of us. I hope for Wales' sake he gets first team football, and soon.
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 25, 2011 12:16:40 GMT
I've still not seen him play, which is frustrating because I keep hearing good things. It's interesting the way that Neil Lennon is recruiting lots of young players from the championship- Ledley, Hooper, Commons etc- and it seems to be working for him. They could well have a bit of a European run next season too so it wouldn't be the worst move in the world for Matthews' development.
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Post by matty on Feb 25, 2011 12:23:40 GMT
It's interesting the way that Neil Lennon is recruiting lots of young players from the championship- Ledley, Hooper, Commons etc- and it seems to be working for him. They could well have a bit of a European run next season too so it wouldn't be the worst move in the world for Matthews' development. True - but I think it shows the top Scottish clubs are only the equivilent of the English Championship clubs, but with the perks of playing European football, and winning domestic trophies. But the down sides are playing teams probably equivilent to league one week in, week out. Still, I'd rather see Matthews playing for Celtic, than sat on Cardiff bench - but as a Cardiff fan I wish we'd get the £2-3m that he's worth. |
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Post by saints19 on Feb 25, 2011 12:33:23 GMT
Top SPL clubs are better than Championship ones. I can't see any club in the Championship attracting quality internationals like (in recent times) El Hadji Diouf, Nakamura, McGeady, Roy Keane etc. Celtic and Rangers would probably be mid-table Premiership at the moment, around where Newcastle are. Hearts would have a decent chance of surviving a season too, although it's rare that a non-Old Firm side is genuinely competitive in the SPL like this season.
The rest of the top 6 are more like Championship standard. And the sides at the bottom would be League One/League Two.
That's my opinion anyway. Bear in mind Celtic are attracting top players from the Championship, not just ordinary Championship players. Ledley and Hooper were widely regarded as being quality championship players.
Playing for Celtic has to be better than sitting on the bench fr Cardiff, so if Matthews can make the move work for him all the best to hm. Also I can't imagine that Dave Jones's shocking treatment of Matthews (publicly singling out a 19-year-old for criticism following a defeat is poor form) has encouraged Matthews to stay. And maybe Lennon will be more symathetic to the Welsh national side than Jones. So, all in all, a good move I reckon.
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 25, 2011 12:33:52 GMT
Celtic are looking better than Rangers this season and the Gers have just reached the Europa league last 16, so it shows a decent European run is possible for Celtic next season now Lennon's got his feet under the table. As a Wales fan, I'd rather see one of our most promising young players go somewhere where he'll play in Europe, experience different styles, atmosphere's etc, than just learn to play hoofball at somewhere like Stoke.
From the point of view of Cardiff missing out on money, I tend to think those in charge at the club only have themselves to blame. Either tie the kid down to a decent long term contract or cash in when the big boys first started circling. Simple enough isn't it?
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Post by matty on Feb 25, 2011 12:58:46 GMT
Top SPL clubs are better than Championship ones. I can't see any club in the Championship attracting quality internationals like (in recent times) El Hadji Diouf, Nakamura, McGeady, Roy Keane etc. Celtic and Rangers would probably be mid-table Premiership at the moment, around where Newcastle are. Hearts would have a decent chance of surviving a season too, although it's rare that a non-Old Firm side is genuinely competitive in the SPL like this season. You don't think Bellamy, Ramsey, Sinclair, David James! and Yakubu show the quality that Championship clubs attract? Nevermind the Taarabt's of this world!! There's a reason why the league is the 4th most popular in the world. Celtic have played us a few times recently, in friendlies admittedly, but so far we've won one, drawn one. Rangers' defence consists of 2 players over 40! Their star striker, Kris Boyd, moved to.....the Championship! I'm telling you they would not survive a Premiership season, and would struggle to get out of the Championship. |
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Post by matty on Feb 25, 2011 13:01:52 GMT
From the point of view of Cardiff missing out on money, I tend to think those in charge at the club only have themselves to blame. Either tie the kid down to a decent long term contract or cash in when the big boys first started circling. Simple enough isn't it? Agreed, the long term contract option my preference! Good luck to him if he does go though, I'm sure he will go on to big things. |
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Post by cilmeri on Feb 25, 2011 13:49:04 GMT
You don't think Bellamy, Ramsey, Sinclair, David James! and Yakubu show the quality that Championship clubs attract? Nevermind the Taarabt's of this world!! I actually think they'd be relegation contenders from the prem at the moment, but given the size of their following (at the ground and internationally) then they'd consoladate a prem position soon enough. Aand those players, there's a reason they're in the championship, and I'd say it's not out of choice. |
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Post by matty on Feb 25, 2011 15:11:13 GMT
You don't think Bellamy, Ramsey, Sinclair, David James! and Yakubu show the quality that Championship clubs attract? Nevermind the Taarabt's of this world!! I actually think they'd be relegation contenders from the prem at the moment, but given the size of their following (at the ground and internationally) then they'd consoladate a prem position soon enough. Aand those players, there's a reason they're in the championship, and I'd say it's not out of choice. Fair point, but the same goes for the players moving to Scotland! The strong Premierleague has certainly filtered very talented players down to the Championship. There are only a handful of players that have left Scotland and become successful at a premierleague club in recent years, and its because the scottish leauge is suffering. Teams like Celtic and Rangers can't afford large transfer fees anymore, but they can attract the players after a few quid more in the pay packet. |
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Post by saints19 on Feb 25, 2011 16:47:53 GMT
Top SPL clubs are better than Championship ones. I can't see any club in the Championship attracting quality internationals like (in recent times) El Hadji Diouf, Nakamura, McGeady, Roy Keane etc. Celtic and Rangers would probably be mid-table Premiership at the moment, around where Newcastle are. Hearts would have a decent chance of surviving a season too, although it's rare that a non-Old Firm side is genuinely competitive in the SPL like this season. You don't think Bellamy, Ramsey, Sinclair, David James! and Yakubu show the quality that Championship clubs attract? Nevermind the Taarabt's of this world!! There's a reason why the league is the 4th most popular in the world. Celtic have played us a few times recently, in friendlies admittedly, but so far we've won one, drawn one. Rangers' defence consists of 2 players over 40! Their star striker, Kris Boyd, moved to.....the Championship! I'm telling you they would not survive a Premiership season, and would struggle to get out of the Championship. Of those, Bellamy and James moved to the Champ for geographical/personal reasons, while Taarabt, Ramsey, Yakubu and Sinclair (I assume you mean Scott Sinclair) dropped down because they weren't getting game time in the Premiership and couldn't find an alternative club. It's rare that an established Premiership player goes to the Championship. Occasionally, such a player makes a move up north (Robbie Keane for instance, who had admirers in the Premiership but went to Celtic for a bit). |
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Post by cilmeri on Feb 25, 2011 21:25:25 GMT
Signed a pre contract with Celtic then. Real shame I think, but from his point of view he wasn't getting a game, and Celtic have shown they want him
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Post by saints19 on Feb 26, 2011 0:06:14 GMT
Signed a pre contract with Celtic then. Real shame I think, but from his point of view he wasn't getting a game, and Celtic have shown they want him As I said, better to be playing at Celtic than warming the bench (if that) at Cardiff. Plus he's away from Dave Jones's malevolent influence. I'd have preferred to see him go to an EPL team, but can't complain. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2011 22:19:30 GMT
What's the point in running an academy when you let a player of his quality and age go to Celtic when you are on the verge of promotion to the EPL? DJ may look stupid in a couple of years.
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Post by matty on Feb 28, 2011 12:54:11 GMT
You don't think Bellamy, Ramsey, Sinclair, David James! and Yakubu show the quality that Championship clubs attract? Nevermind the Taarabt's of this world!! There's a reason why the league is the 4th most popular in the world. Celtic have played us a few times recently, in friendlies admittedly, but so far we've won one, drawn one. Rangers' defence consists of 2 players over 40! Their star striker, Kris Boyd, moved to.....the Championship! I'm telling you they would not survive a Premiership season, and would struggle to get out of the Championship. Of those, Bellamy and James moved to the Champ for geographical/personal reasons, while Taarabt, Ramsey, Yakubu and Sinclair (I assume you mean Scott Sinclair) dropped down because they weren't getting game time in the Premiership and couldn't find an alternative club. It's rare that an established Premiership player goes to the Championship. Occasionally, such a player makes a move up north (Robbie Keane for instance, who had admirers in the Premiership but went to Celtic for a bit). Money talks. The stadiums Celtic and Rangers fill outdo every Championship club, so wages are higher, especially as they rarely pay fees to buy players these days. If they were a midtable Premierleague side, their players must be of premierleague quality, so the fact that Kris Boyd left Rangers despite a great record and joined a Championship side says a lot. Look at how many players Strachan took from Rangers/ Celtic to Middlesbrough.... Anyway I digress - Matthews playing for Celtic is better than sitting on Cardiffs bench  |
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Post by saints19 on Feb 28, 2011 19:10:54 GMT
matty:
I don't think I was really arguing that players went to the SPL for purely football reasons. Obviously money plays a reasonable part in it too, Champions' League is prably a lure for some though.
I think, actually, you could probably make an argument for it either way. You can quote examples to support either view - I would quote Ledley and Matthews who could surely have signed a deal to stay in the Champ with a top club if they had wanted to, yet chose to go up to Glasgow. But, you could quote Kris Boyd as a counter-argument which I agree is one example where a really top SPL player has indeed moved to the Championship.
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Post by bellamyforever on Mar 3, 2011 12:12:21 GMT
kris boyd wont live in the prem. Fact.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2011 13:08:46 GMT
What's the point in running an academy when you let a player of his quality and age go to Celtic when you are on the verge of promotion to the EPL? DJ may look stupid in a couple of years. Exactly, I'm a member of the Academy at Cardiff and have been contemplating about stopping my contributions recently. |
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Post by rushlegend on Aug 7, 2011 18:38:49 GMT
Played the whole 90 mins for Celtic in the 1-0 win away to Aberdeen, hope he starts on Wednesday  |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 7, 2011 18:47:18 GMT
Great prospect for us
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Post by youngdragon on Aug 7, 2011 19:34:26 GMT
Great prospect but if he starts he will get torn apart he simply isn't ready to start against a team ranked 100 or so places above us.
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Post by raptor on Aug 7, 2011 19:49:02 GMT
Great prospect but if he starts he will get torn apart he simply isn't ready to start against a team ranked 100 or so places above us. Why? |
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Post by saints19 on Aug 7, 2011 19:55:38 GMT
The Aussies are a bit less than 100 places above us. I'm sure he'd be fine if called upon.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 7, 2011 19:57:58 GMT
They aint that good he is ready now to play
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Post by youngdragon on Aug 7, 2011 20:30:29 GMT
Because they are nearly 100 hundredplaces above us, and he is yet to have a proper full season as his trailed off last year and is simply not ready.
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Post by muaythai on Aug 8, 2011 4:51:53 GMT
AUSTRALIA PLAY SHIT TEAMS , THEY WOULD BE IN POT 3 OR 4 IF THEY HAD TO QUALIFY FOR EUROPE, FACT. MATTHEWS IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF PLAYING AGAINST THEM.
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